Kill stealing

[quote=Crows foot][quote=PsiGuard] [quote=Crows foot] Last hitting only applies to minions for the gold :) [/quote] A last-hit is a last-hit. If you get the last-hit on anything before it dies, you get the kill. Whether minion, monster or champion. All of them give gold for it too, even the Nexus. ^^ [/quote] While that is very true and I see how my post could have confused people I mean that the only thing you need to worry about ONLY needing to last hit are minions :)[/quote]

[quote=CelticChampion]Kill secured. It's a team game so don't complain. The kills are to benefit the team and win with the gold you earn from them. Yeah you might work hard in a 1v1 to get a kill and out of no where someone comes to get the last hit but that is just you worrying about having the most kills or other reasons but you really should just be glad if your team is ksing (kill securing)[/quote]

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[quote=Nighthawk]Thing is. If my 0/11 Garen comes down and ults someone before I (4-0) spam all my skills and go boom, I should get pissed. Yes, it's a teamgame, but that kill would have helped me more then Garen. If Garen sucks, what is he going to do with 1 kill? Nothing. If a semi fed player gets more kills, what is he going to do? Snowball and win games.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis][quote=CelticChampion] Kill secured. It's a team game so don't complain. The kills are to benefit the team and win with the gold you earn from them. Yeah you might work hard in a 1v1 to get a kill and out of no where someone comes to get the last hit but that is just you worrying about having the most kills or other reasons but you really should just be glad if your team is ksing (kill securing) [/quote] QFT[/quote]

[quote=Kromatt]You guys don't understand my argument, he's gotten lots of times 22-5, 17-4, and i just want a kill that i've earned, I'm still new, so give me some satisfaction of doing something. [i]It's like someone working on a project for months, and someone else finishes it within the week, and he gets all the credit, but not you who spent all that time doing the research.[/i] If i see that someone clearly has that kill i won't be mad, but will help out, and if i get the kill it's just lucky on my part, and if there's another hero bothering us, better to have 2 down to low health, so they'll most likely retreat. I'M NOT SELFISH, WTF ?, i barely get kills, and he gets 20+ kills, so why is he spared. P.S. i'll just finish this thread, it's not worth it, because all of you think that KILL STEALING is needed and them getting lots of kills is part of the game, for others not to enjoy themselves.[/quote]

[quote=iBradlee][quote=Nighthawk] Thing is. If my 0/11 Garen comes down and ults someone before I (4-0) spam all my skills and go boom, I should get pissed. Yes, it's a teamgame, but that kill would have helped me more then Garen. If Garen sucks, what is he going to do with 1 kill? Nothing. If a semi fed player gets more kills, what is he going to do? Snowball and win games. [/quote] Couldn't agree more. Exactly how I feel about KSing. I have ABSOLUTELY no problem with someone coming in and "helping" me kill someone, even if I don't need help. That being said, when a TERRIBAD teammate (a 1/13 Skarner, to give an example of a game I JUST played) comes in and blatantly killsteals me(16/3/22 Singed), it just annoys me. Because those two extra kills will do me (And my team in general) a LOT more good, than it will Skarner. Mostly just an annoying occurrence, that sadly is a part of the game. I don't rage about it, in-game. Just kinda face-palm IRL, whenever it happens.[/quote]

[quote=Kromatt]guess i'll just need to get better on my own, and then face other players when ready.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]I'd rather get the kill, but to be fair...For a lot of us it's a knee jerk reaction to spam our abilities in team fights and thus kills happen, something you thought would be your's became someone elses. Times where a kill secure IS a steal: 1v1 I'm behind in kills, and farm but still able to deal damage. Earning a kill on the target I'm owning WOULD net me a good amount of gold and puts me back on track to NOT being carried as the carry. Random ASS person rolls over and steals the kill netting them the lion's share of the gold even though I did 99% of the work. THAT is a situation where I will chew someone out for stealing. Time when a kill secure is legit: I've done a majority of the damage to someone but they'd still get away or I knowing ping a champion who would have otherwise gotten away. Example: I was playing as Xerath the enemy Morganna was REALLY low. She was hugging her turret, and put her spell shield up for some reason. Our WW was waiting in the wings, I simply dropped her shield with a Q and he Infinite Durressed her. Easy kill that wouldnt have happened if I attempted to kill her alone. (well I didn't see it happening her Q+Ulti could have gotten me killed if I tried it alone) What does this all mean? In the grand scheme of things, a kill is a kill. Our opinions of how to feel shouldn't matter, we want to have the highest KDAR (Kills/Deaths/Assists Ratio) but what we really should focus on is winning. I've gone 35/5/X before and still lost....So in the long run "sharing the wealth" can go further than being the big boss. (I was playing Fiddlesticks...OMG my team was so bad, but their failness and positioning in team fights let me get literally 5 perfect ultis off dropping the whole enemy team too super low HP levels. Acouple Quadras but no pentas T_T)[/quote]

[quote=Kromatt][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] What does this all mean? In the grand scheme of things, a kill is a kill. Our opinions of how to feel shouldn't matter, we want to have the highest KDAR (Kills/Deaths/Assists Ratio) but what we really should focus on is winning. I've gone 35/5/X before and still lost....[/quote] see, you went 35/5 and still lost, and if you share 15 of those kills, your team would've done better, even though you'd like to be the best on your team. If your team is struggling, provide them with items to get and with kills, even though you wouldn't like it, it would keep you guys alive longer and actually do more damage.[/quote]