New Amumu masteries

[quote=Searz][quote=Fox Rage] [quote=Searz] Also, the 21 point mastery in utility gives Smite enough CDR to be up on double golems. That makes a huge difference in early jungling.[/quote] Not really, since you said it yourself. With 0/21/9, you finished the jungl with 130 HP. With 0/9/21 you finished it with 80 HP. 21 points in utility won't make a huge difference in the time it takes you to finish the jungle. You might do it 3-5 seconds faster, not more and not worth it IMO.[/quote] Yes really. Without the Smite on golems you would be several seconds slower with utility than with defense. But you didn't really understand what I said anyways..[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Wintermond] And they buffed the mastery, it was 1 gp10 before. Oh, yeah you have to spend 4 points into it but if you skill deeper you get wealth aswell, which is pretty fucking strong.[/quote] Wealth is strong on laners. It's pretty bad on junglers unless they're real special. How can you say that they buffed something when they blatantly NERFED it by 50%? It was just a big fucking nerf, nothing more, nothing less ;([/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]I just came from school, I pretty much only wanted to write something. :<[/quote]

[quote=TcelesBHsup]9/21/0, magic pen on red and blue, armor yellow, hp regen for quints, start with [[Regrowth Pendant]] and build into a [[Philosopher's Stone]]. Super fast, great early gank on mid or top depending on which side you start at. You are above 90% health the entire time you jungle. Plus tons of cash for wards and to get into your build. On top of that after your first trip back you get [[Philosopher's Stone]] and start giving blue to mid and red to ad range or solo. Forget the hype, philo stone/sustain route is the way to go for [[Amumu]]/[[Rammus]]/[[Shen]].[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I think this works best: [masteries=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=1-2-3-2-4-0-0-1-0-1-0-3-3-0-0-1&tree3=1-2-0-1-4-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0&v=2] The T5 masteries of defence tree are total shit. Don't get them. There are better masteries elswhere. And [[Indomitable]]? Pretty meh, it is 2 dmg... If you want a mix of offense and defense: [masteries=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=1-2-3-2-4-0-0-1-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=1-2-0-1-4-0-0-0-3-1-0-4-0-0-0-0&v=2] If you want full utility: [masteries=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=1-0-3-0-4-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=1-2-0-1-4-0-0-0-3-1-0-4-0-3-1-1&v=2] HP>[[Bladed Armor]] everytime![/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]-please note this post was made without reading the responses to the opening post- Finishing at 3:20 isn't really worthwhile if you don't have enough health to gank. I'd rather run flat AD marks, because magic pen has little significance, and you always want to land an auto-attack to apply your passive in team fights anyway. Health Quints are also better then Armor Quints in my opinion. Even at low levels, you want a mix of stats, not focusing too much on a single one. (That's how it feels for Amumu anyway) As for masteries, 0/21/9 is definitely the way to go. You're a tank. Spec like one. But I'd rather spec like this: [url=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=1-0-3-2-4-0-1-1-1-1-0-3-0-3-0-1&tree3=1-1-1-1-4-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0&v=2]0 / 21 / 9[/url] [[Honor Guard]] > [[Resistance]]. You can build more magic resist if necessary, you can't buy damage-reduction. (Well, there's [[Leviathan]], but if you're building that, I can't really offer anymore advice)[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=NicknameMy] And [[Indomitable]]? Pretty meh, it is 2 dmg... HP>[[Bladed Armor]] everytime![/quote] ^Has no idea of what he's talking about.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=TcelesBHsup] 9/21/0, magic pen on red and blue, armor yellow, hp regen for quints, start with [[Regrowth Pendant]] and build into a [[Philosopher's Stone]]. Super fast, great early gank on mid or top depending on which side you start at. You are above 90% health the entire time you jungle. Plus tons of cash for wards and to get into your build. On top of that after your first trip back you get [[Philosopher's Stone]] and start giving blue to mid and red to ad range or solo. Forget the hype, philo stone/sustain route is the way to go for [[Amumu]]/[[Rammus]]/[[Shen]].[/quote] How good of you to join us. Too bad you didn't even bother to READ THE THREAD.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=JunSupport] Finishing at 3:20 isn't really worthwhile if you don't have enough health to gank.[/quote] Eh? What are you talking about? You recall after clearing the camps to get a Philo Stone at 03:30. That'll help immensely with the rest of your jungling. [quote]I'd rather run flat AD marks, because magic pen has little significance, and you always want to land an auto-attack to apply your passive in team fights anyway.[/quote] That AD is nigh useless in mid/lategame. Even if it does help jungling a little, I'm pretty sure Armor marks will help more than AD marks. [quote]Health Quints are also better then Armor Quints in my opinion. Even at low levels, you want a mix of stats, not focusing too much on a single one. (That's how it feels for Amumu anyway)[/quote] Uneducated opinion. You will go much lower with HP than with Armor quints. Armor>HP in quints. Period. [quote]As for masteries, 0/21/9 is definitely the way to go.[/quote] Probably, but I'm not entirely convinced yet. [quote][[Honor Guard]] > [[Resistance]]. You can build more magic resist if necessary, you can't buy damage-reduction.[/quote] Again uneducated opinion. I realized that Honor Guard was bad the moment I compared them, because I've done math research on the subject for my guide. It's explained pretty well in [url=http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1489938]this thread[/url].[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]The thing is, you want to have the most usefull masteries for your character through the whole game. The thing is, while [[bladed armor]] only helps you at jungling, HP helps you at jungling and also later in the game. With high resists, any bit of HP is very effective. I think stonewall said that already. [url=http://clgaming.net/board/board39-reign-of-gaming/board40-blogs/board47-stonewalls-jungle/4268-the-new-masteries-and-jungling/?s=fb9a7415591d8ed0c5f37c99b0fb567f7e49b12e]Focus build and transition build.[/url] I would everytime go for a transition build. And this is because, you have to go with [[greater quintessence of swiftness]]. It is the best Quint you can get on [[amumu]] through the entire game.[/quote]