Unoffical PBE Patch Notes for 1/9/2013

[quote=Foo18]All of the changes look fine, except it looks like they are overnerfing eve. I also think the [[morgana change is stupid. Don't know why they nerfed her, and yes, that is a nerf. The stun duration doesn't matter before teamfights (aka, level 11 and beyond) and it nerfs her late game teamfighting slightly, and almost nothing else. I like the [[katarina]] nerfs. She was just too mobile for no reason. She did not need to be mobile at all. They reversed the [[ryze]] changes for some reason. The new wota change may be cool, doubt it will change much, though. [quote=cooper56] I wonder does this mean vlad wont rush wota? Or will he just not buy the pick item and just get revolver. [/quote] Vlad does NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT Rush WOTA D:LKFNSD:KJFNSDKLFJDSNLKFJDSNFKJDSNFKLJDSNFLKJSDNFSKDJFSDF[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Foo18] All of the changes look fine, except it looks like they are overnerfing eve. I also think the [[morgana change is stupid. Don't know why they nerfed her, and yes, that is a nerf. The stun duration doesn't matter before teamfights (aka, level 11 and beyond) and it nerfs her late game teamfighting slightly, and almost nothing else. I like the [[katarina]] nerfs. She was just too mobile for no reason. She did not need to be mobile at all. They reversed the [[ryze]] changes for some reason. The new wota change may be cool, doubt it will change much, though. [quote=cooper56] I wonder does this mean vlad wont rush wota? Or will he just not buy the pick item and just get revolver. [/quote] Vlad does NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT Rush WOTA D:LKFNSD:KJFNSDKLFJDSNLKFJDSNFKJDSNFKLJDSNFLKJSDNFSKDJFSDF [/quote] It's not an overnerf, just the synergy with DFG got touched a little, which is fine. Now people have to think if DFG then ult or the other way around (depending on their % hp) Current health is still fine but now it's not such a strong finisher, you have to use it at the start which is perfectly fine.[/quote]

[quote=Foo18][quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=Foo18] All of the changes look fine, except it looks like they are overnerfing eve. I also think the [[morgana change is stupid. Don't know why they nerfed her, and yes, that is a nerf. The stun duration doesn't matter before teamfights (aka, level 11 and beyond) and it nerfs her late game teamfighting slightly, and almost nothing else. I like the [[katarina]] nerfs. She was just too mobile for no reason. She did not need to be mobile at all. They reversed the [[ryze]] changes for some reason. The new wota change may be cool, doubt it will change much, though. [quote=cooper56] I wonder does this mean vlad wont rush wota? Or will he just not buy the pick item and just get revolver. [/quote] Vlad does NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT Rush WOTA D:LKFNSD:KJFNSDKLFJDSNLKFJDSNFKJDSNFKLJDSNFLKJSDNFSKDJFSDF [/quote] It's not an overnerf, just the synergy with DFG got touched a little, which is fine. Now people have to think if DFG then ult or the other way around (depending on their % hp) Current health is still fine but now it's not such a strong finisher, you have to use it at the start which is perfectly fine. [/quote] It is a small nerf to single target burst, but it really hurts her teamfight, unless you initiate with your ult. It also means you can't BS steal baron or dragon, which is nice, but I feel it will be an overnerf. We won't know until it goes live, though. (If it goes live) Not to mention, losing the HP and HP per level will hurt.[/quote]

[quote=cooper56]It is nerf also you will always lead with dfg this change changes nothing but not let her burst people. She still will dfg ult due to the 20% increase dmg from dfg.[/quote]

[quote=astrolia]The CDR on Banner looks nice for AP supports, but it's still a very niche item. Screw WotA tho.[/quote]

[quote=cooper56]If you want to push the item could be good but eh you dont need it at all its crap imo never bought it once.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][[Ryze]] buffs are mind-boggling [[Evelynn]] nerfs are necessary but possibly too harsh [[Katarina]] nerfs will impact her a lot more than most people think [[Will of the Ancients]] is even less appealing than the overnerfed item has become for a majority of champions [[Banner of Command]] had numbers readjusted, still very niche and underwhelming [[Kayle]] skin - we don't need anymore damn [[Kayle]] players[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]nerf APers MORE![/quote]

[quote=recnib]Kat needed to be nerfed, Eve was hardly playable anyway, Kayle skin is cool, and chubby why nerf the AP champs more? Well actually I just couldn't use Eve so i guess its harsh on people who could ^^[/quote]

[quote=astrolia][quote=cooper56] If you want to push the item could be good but eh you dont need it at all its crap imo never bought it once. [/quote] Banner has one use: The super minion will force pressure on a lane (ideally bot) when you start making moves for baron.[/quote]