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How can I capitalize on being fed and win the...

Creator: darthdeus May 7, 2013 2:27am
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Every time I play a lower level game, such as with a friend ~15, or something that's not ranked, the games usually tend to be very long and tedious, and impossible to finish, because there is 5 people sitting on mid doing nothing, just camping.

I've just played a game with Lee Sin where I was solo top against two people. When I was lvl 9, they were 6. When I hit 18, most of the people on the map were 13-15, but I couldn't take an advantage of this, because my team couldn't beat their jax/wukong faceroll combo and we always got roflstomped, even if I managed to kill 2-3 people. Then as the game goes on, other people catch up to my feed and I lose my advantage and eventually the game.

This is sometimes even the case in ranked games (I'm in silver atm), where no matter what advantage I get, I can't capitalize on it and win.

I'm feel a bit lost, because I'd love to play support or something passive/tanky, but if I do, I can't carry the game to victory.

I feel that the whole solo queue champion tier list idea is broken, because most of the campions just can't win the game for their team, even if they get fed :\
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If your team fails, split push! :D

Try to take TP aswell, so you both give the enemy hell in side lanes, as in teamfights :D
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Yeah. The strategy I always do is either 'fight together and ace them' or '****'em, gonna go split push cos they **** up the fights anyway'. Dominate your lane opponents and then camp another lane whilst protecting your lane with teleport.

Only exception to this rule of mine is when I'm ADC. I just permapush botlane. Works the best with Ezreal (particularly the recent blue build after you get Iceborn Gauntlet.

When the enemy is bad, they usually have poor map awareness. So when they initiate a teamfight, that's the time to amp up split pushing to take everything they own. If both towers are up in the lane I'm pushing, usually I can take both of them, depending on the champion ( Shen for top, Twisted Fate or AD assassin for mid, Ezreal for botlane preferred)
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Play champions that are capable to push. Pretty much Trundle now, Volibear - works well on lowlvl games -, Rengar, Nasus... Or simply champions that CANT destroy towers too fast, but can push a lane easily such as Mordekaiser or Sivir, maybe Ziggs or Malzahar.

You will never win by being overfed if you can be stopped by CC - that time, you will have to push, and Lee is not a great pusher at all, still not more powerful than the champions I listed above. This is why he is played in the jungle most of the time, imo.
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last game as Twitch jungler on ranked game score: 32/6/5! my personal record ranked score... i got 1 blood and double kill at 3 min! when i hit 18 lvl all the other players were 12-14 lvl. 4 triple kills 1 quadra and many doubles...this little bastard can carry extremely hard and nasty if he is overfed...there was NO chance not in 1 in 1000 the enemy team could do something to stop me for obliterating them ( my precious infinity/hurricane and ghostblade/cleaver :* ) Lee Sin imo cannot do that ;)
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Absolutely. Lee Sin needs to push and 1v1 anybody that tries to stop him. If you are 18 and dudes are 13-14, you can even 1v2.

Now Twitch is just ridiculous, the thing is you need your teammates a bit more, at least to engage and keep the frontline from advancing to you.

Any champion that can splitpush is awesome if fed, because by the time peeps catch up, you could have top and bot inhibs down. I didn't include mid 'cause usually in these games people just camp mid.

From my experience, ADC wins games in low levels. I have like a 92% win rate with Miss Fortune, while I play a better Gragas but only a 64% win rate, even winning my lane almost always.
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i think rengar is one of the best split pusher if you ask me. with the right build he can trash a tower faster than any other champ. oh wait enemy team is ganking you from all sides ? pop your ulti and kaboom you are safe and will live to push another day, or in the next few minutes.
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Your options if you are fed and the rest of your team is behind is fairly limited:

Splitpush and try to occupy as many enemies as possible while taking as many towers as possible. The global gold you'll grant to your team might help you counter snowball.

Try to take objectives. I've learned that emphasizing objectives can turn lost games into won ones. Especially if you're playing an assassin like Lee Sin, pick one or two of them off then rush to Dragon, or Baron. Even stealing away their buffs cam make a huge difference.

Roam. If you pick up a few kills at top lane, gank mid. Or try to teleport bot lane and gank. Snowball as many lanes as possible and try not to throw, and you should be solid.
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Split push actually works extremely well, whether you're ahead or behind. I've split pushed to top inhibitor turret with Yorick and eventually won the game when our team started 0-8 because the creep wave pressure allowed the rest of my team to freely take jungle buffs and objectives.
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Share your power, don't just go 15/0 in your lane, go to other lanes, make sure you put global pressure on the map, if you're gone, they're scared.
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