Season 4 Jungle Routes Help

[quote=Pølsemanden]olaf is like the most blue reliant jungler is like the most blue-reliant jungler in the game. You need mana and cdr to clear fast on him.[/quote]

[quote=luizdeh][quote=Pølsemanden] olaf is like the most blue reliant jungler is like the most blue-reliant jungler in the game. You need mana and cdr to clear fast on him. [/quote] True. But I've tested it starting both buffs and didn't find much difference, especially starting with [[doran's blade]] and W. Also, CDR blues. With leash+[[smite]] at first buff things go really fast and I let myself get lower HP to increase AA and kill things faster, at least for the first clear. From then on I'm levelling Q and things get even faster. If you start machete+5 and start Q then starting Blue is indeed much better.[/quote]

[quote=sirell]I've played [[olaf]] 4-5 times in the jungle recently and I must say, starting blue makes a huge difference in my hp when I finish my clear. When I started red, I ended up with 1/3-1/2 hp after blue. When I started blue side, I finished Red with 2/3-3/4 hp. All times I started D-Blade.[/quote]

[quote=Bioalchemist]watched oddone jungle olaf a number of times. blue on him is stupid good. he can spam q's like a freak. you can't escape and the damages his q does...just silly.[/quote]

[quote=SkidmarkD]Down side is when he doesn't have blue, then he gets mana starved and if he misses things go very differently.[/quote]

[quote=Bioalchemist]#truth[/quote]

[quote=C4 Lasty]Its also game dependent. Shen can give you a stronger leash on blue than say a Vlad. Use your best judgement. I personally always start where my adc is now because I'm either playing Eve or I'm just going to farm and I want to conserve as many health pots as possible. I don't want to see people complaining when mid doesn't leash (which they shouldn't) and a vlad contributes 150 damage to your first buff before heading to lane.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=luizdeh] [quote=Pølsemanden] olaf is like the most blue reliant jungler is like the most blue-reliant jungler in the game. You need mana and cdr to clear fast on him. [/quote] True. But I've tested it starting both buffs and didn't find much difference, especially starting with [[doran's blade]] and W. Also, CDR blues. With leash+[[smite]] at first buff things go really fast and I let myself get lower HP to increase AA and kill things faster, at least for the first clear. From then on I'm levelling Q and things get even faster. If you start machete+5 and start Q then starting Blue is indeed much better. [/quote] i start doran's blade and start q when starting blue-buff is possible, i start w when i'm forced to start red. @lasty on some champions you want mid to leash for you if bot doesn't have leash power enough(see: shaco)[/quote]

[quote=SkidmarkD]Shaco needs help on leash? That's a serious question though. Usually when I see a Shaco jungle he doesn't want a leash..... I never play him so wouldn't know.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=SkidmarkD] Shaco needs help on leash? That's a serious question though. Usually when I see a Shaco jungle he doesn't want a leash..... I never play him so wouldn't know. [/quote] you can do 2 things that are both really strong if you get a strong leash: 1: Put boxes on red and your bot/mid+bot damages the buff so it gets finished by the boxes and then they take the small ones, walk to enemy blue - box it over the wall and smitesteal the buff from the enemy buff and just take control of the enemy jungle. Against junglers prone to invades i can sometiems get every buff(yes, every single one) against even diamond junglers. 2: Get cdr blues, plant boxes at your blue, go to red and ask top for a leash for red-buff too since you'll be there at 1:55[/quote]