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Need help learning how to ADC and Supp.

Creator: DGVish July 3, 2014 5:29am
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Well, I've played LoL on and off since my WoW buddy got me started about a year ago. Currently I am not able to do ranked matches, lvl 27, but I know I can't always be top lane. It's the only thing I've really practiced and can play well up to this point. My best champions are easy enough to play, Darius+Vladimir, and I think that's probably my problem. I'm really bad at being an ADC and average at best. I've only played Caitlyn, Twitch, and I think MF. Twitch seemed like a lot of fun, he might be first choice to learn ADC. Somehow I managed to go 12/7 as Twitch just learning him and being carried by a gold Katarina.

I don't like playing new champions because I don't like learning new things. At this point I feel I should just stick to what I'm good at, jungling and top lane.

I guess my real question is what sort of champions should I focus on. I just bought Rengar since he fits both roles I'm good at, but I would really like to learn how to ADC. Preferably with a strong one that requires skill like Draven.

I know the basics of ADC and Supp, but having to learn a new champion every time just holds me back when I know I could be wrecking top lane. Should I begin playing practice matches against computers?
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If you're already decided on maining another role I'd say that it's best to keep it safe and simple with your picks. For my weaker roles I generally just have around 1-3 easy to play champions with strong early games. Keeping the number of picks low and making sure they're easy/strong will give you a good chance to at least not lose horribly even if you're playing against someone who mains the role.

The two most obvious choices for easy to play safe AD carries would be Lucian and Caitlyn, but really you can choose almost any ADC you like as long as you personally find it simple to play and strong.

I wouldn't suggest playing co-op, but it might be helpful and make it more fun if you can find a friend to lane with while you're learning.
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Playing support/AD against Co-op is pretty useless, it's not guaranteed, as far as I know, that your teammates will play according to the meta and go AD/support with you at bot lane. Aside from that you won't be getting jungler help/enemy team won't be getting jungler help nor roams from mid and dealing with things like that is important in real games, especially when playing support. Playing Co-ops does nothing for your map awareness nor will it teach you about the importance of warding; both of these are crucial points when playing support.

Top supports at the moment are Thresh, Morgana, Karma and Nami. Morgana and Nami are pretty straight-forward with little aside from he basics of supports needed to play them; whereas Thresh can be a bit difficult for you as he's big on engaging and he's got a difficult skillshot; which he sometimes has to rely on. Morg and Nami Q is difficult to hit, for newer players, but that's pretty much all of their gameplay. Plus Morg only costs about 1k IP. Karma out of the four is probably easiest to play, and she's not too expensive (3200). All you do is poke with Q.

There's Braum too ofc, he's easy to play and broken; expensive though and prone to nerfs and bans, when you start playing ranked/draft pick.

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Playing support/AD against Co-op is pretty useless, it's not guaranteed, as far as I know, that your teammates will play according to the meta and go AD/support with you at bot lane. Aside from that you won't be getting jungler help/enemy team won't be getting jungler help nor roams from mid and dealing with things like that is important in real games, especially when playing support. Playing Co-ops does nothing for your map awareness nor will it teach you about the importance of warding; both of these are crucial points when playing support.

Top supports at the moment are Thresh, Morgana, Karma and Nami. Morgana and Nami are pretty straight-forward with little aside from he basics of supports needed to play them; whereas Thresh can be a bit difficult for you as he's big on engaging and he's got a difficult skillshot; which he sometimes has to rely on. Morg and Nami Q is difficult to hit, for newer players, but that's pretty much all of their gameplay. Plus Morg only costs about 1k IP. Karma out of the four is probably easiest to play, and she's not too expensive (3200). All you do is poke with Q.

There's Braum too ofc, he's easy to play and broken; expensive though and prone to nerfs and bans, when you start playing ranked/draft pick.


If you do Co-op with mic its really useful. I found out lots of times that the combos from both ADC and Supp get messed up just because of the timing, but you can solve with co-oping. Also, as far as i know witht the new Team Builder you can now secure your lane choice so its not a problem to get ADC/supp co-op.

What i dont really understand is why you said playing co-op wont teach you on how to support. You can make your support get used to map awareness just by telling them constantly when someone is not around or look at the map whenever a ping sound is heard. Warding is something every teammate have the obligation of (specially since you can only use up to 3 normal wards and 1 pink), therefore anyone can teach that. Personally i ping my teammates whenever im out of wards and i know its important to put one in a specific location.

Aside from that topic, the support you picked as top supps are correct but you missed two others. Leona and Zyra. While Zyra is a rare support, she is a good counter to Thresh, Braum and Leona which makes her a good support to be considered. Leona is also a really good support, even if she lacks disengage abilities her focused CC can turn the table.

If you plan on playing a support, you have to consider synergies. Which support is fits in my team? is my team lacking a tank, AP or utility? Also you have to choose a support that can either mix well with your ADC or counter the opposite team the most.
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Co-op isn't very punishing in terms of map vision, bots rarely roam and most of the time they do it's to save a tower going down or to do their "all mid" thing. There's hardly anything to learn about supporting on co-op, you don't get the chance to make plays, most people snowball pretty fast there and bots are too one dimensional: they throw CC to try and harass, they start leaving lane at 1/3rd HP and they blow their summoner's around that time too. Plus they aren't even coordinated.

Botlane is often very dynamic and requires a lot of awareness. At lower levels of play, this is more relevant since people do a lot of suicidal stuff that doesn't happen at higher elos where map perception and coordination deny those initiatives (such as coming from behind alone versus a 4-man comp, it works on bronze coz people pay no attention but in gold you have to be a godlike initiator/tank or you'll just die for no reason). It is much better to learn to support versus other people, even tho you'll get paired with moronic marksmen.

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