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by Panglot » March 23, 2011 12:22pm | Report

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Ill upvote you for the ingenious title and for all the efford you did. Very nice screenshots also.
But here starts the criticism.

I checked you out and you really seems like decent player with Ashe.
But if you are opened to suggestions let me tell you few words that come to my mind.

My friend's main is Ashe and he plays very good with her. Its my observations not my gameplay so if Im wrong in some way dont judge me too hard :D.

First Dont put Focus in the Pros :D. Thats probably the most useless passive in the game.

For items. Dont know how the people like it but I never found Starks fervor as usefull as so many other items. Also you need some health badly. Replacing it with Banshee seems a good choice to me.

Summoner spells. Well ashe has no escape mechanisms at all. You say yourself shes squishy and still you take Teleport. The teleport is not bad spell but it with mere ghost you wont be able to survive. You know when someone stuns you the speed remains 0 with or without ghost. Flash just cant be replaced for Ashe.

General info. You say few times that Ashe is easy but as easy as she looks shes much more difficult than most of the champs in fact. As Ashe player you must know that. Ashe is squshy+great DPS. To counter the squishiness you must be defensive and extremely careful player. To deal your great DPS you must be agressive. To be good Ashe player you must be able to balanse between cautiousness and offensiveness. And as sad it as it is I see that players lower than the middle grade find it just too difficult to handle.
So most important is not the harras or the farming but the balanse between defense and attack.


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by TheNextGenGamer » March 23, 2011 1:30pm | Report

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i like this good job


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by jhoijhoi » March 23, 2011 4:24pm | Report

Panglot wrote:
Ill upvote you for the ingenious title and for all the efford you did. Very nice screenshots also.But here starts the criticism.

Thanks :P

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I checked you out and you really seems like decent player with Ashe.
But if you are opened to suggestions let me tell you few words that come to my mind.

Yeah, I'm a decent player of Ashe, I'm not the best, but if there is an enemy Ashe, no matter how fed she is, I tend to get better scores than her (unless we're losing extremely hard).

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First Dont put Focus in the Pros :D. Thats probably the most useless passive in the game.

omg, you've just shown me a short cut in making icons. *kisses the ground at your feet* On topic though, Ashe's passive is actually pretty good for the initial try of First Blood. If you go to gank their jungler at Blue (or whatever), your critical shot will hurt them pretty bad coupled with Volley. Just like some people buy Quints of Fortitude solely for early game, Ashe's Passive is awesome in that first minute. It's not bad when you have to walk back to base to heal and come back to a fight either, because by the your first shot is a guaranteed critical shot. Gangplank would kill for that - sometimes his Parrrley's don't crit.

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For items. Dont know how the people like it but I never found Starks fervor as usefull as so many other items. Also you need some health badly. Replacing it with Banshee seems a good choice to me.

Banshee's was an optional/situational item. I get Banshee's when they have more than two/three stuns on their team. Otherwise I try to maximise damage. Have you ever tried Stark's with Ashe? Ashe just isn't meant to be DPS, she's also meant to be a support. You're supporting your whole team by buying Stark's.

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Summoner spells. Well ashe has no escape mechanisms at all. You say yourself shes squishy and still you take Teleport. The teleport is not bad spell but it with mere ghost you wont be able to survive. You know when someone stuns you the speed remains 0 with or without ghost. Flash just cant be replaced for Ashe.

Haha yeah. The problem is, if they stun you as Ashe, you're going to die unless you have awesome allies. Teleport gives incredible map control, and Ghost gives you the speed to run away, especially with your boots and phantom dancers. Flash can't get you out of all situations, for example Anivia's combo, Renekton's Slice and Dice + stun, Nocturne's combo. But Ghost potentially can.

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General info. You say few times that Ashe is easy but as easy as she looks shes much more difficult than most of the champs in fact. As Ashe player you must know that. Ashe is squshy+great DPS. To counter the squishiness you must be defensive and extremely careful player. To deal your great DPS you must be agressive. To be good Ashe player you must be able to balanse between cautiousness and offensiveness. And as sad it as it is I see that players lower than the middle grade find it just too difficult to handle.
So most important is not the harras or the farming but the balanse between defense and attack.

:P You're right, I do know Ashe is harder than she looks. I get infuriated when she's called a "right click to play" champion. I said so earlier in my guide. I mentioned farming and harassing because it's what a good Ashe would do. If you poke an enemy champion enough times, they're going to have to recall, or call a gank. Assuming you don't die to ganks, poking champions is a great way to get them underlevled and underfed.

Thanks for taking the time to reply and comment :)

i like this good job

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by Lotticey » March 23, 2011 7:00pm | Report

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Brilliant build worked wonders for my Ashe games thank you Jai

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by Carnageqt » March 23, 2011 8:25pm | Report

if you dont want this downvoted into oblivion put the max damage build as the base build. People wont understand.

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by jhoijhoi » March 23, 2011 9:23pm | Report

Lotticey wrote:
Brilliant build worked wonders for my Ashe games thank you Jai

Thanks Lotticey :)

Carnageqt wrote:
if you dont want this downvoted into oblivion put the max damage build as the base build. People wont understand.

The maximum damage build is great fun to play, but it is extremely expensive. My current item set is affordable even if you haven't been last hitting as much as your should be, because Philosopher's Stone is giving you a small return of gold.

I'm hoping people won't simply downvote this build solely based on the fact I'm not maximising damage. Ashe is DPS, but she is also a support champion. A fed Ashe is great, but in the end, Takedowns comprise of Kills, Assists and Turret/Barracks taken down. That means that as long as Ashe is in the fight, spamming Volley, she will get an assist.

What I'm trying to say is that Ashe is not meant to be purely damage. It's not a good idea to have only one person on your team getting all the kills - sure that person would have maxed items, but there are only so many times you can buy Elixirs.

League of Legends is a team game, and Ashe is a team player. Zeke's Herald is a fantastic item for the team, and if that means sacrificing a little bit of damage because I didn't get The Bloodthirster, then so be it :)

Thanks for your opinion though, Carnageqt. I hope you take the chance to try my build and then rate it appropriately :)

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by Lazukin » March 23, 2011 11:42pm | Report

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Haven't tried it yet to be honest, but it looks good in theory, and you did a great job explaining things. I bookmarked for later.




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by jhoijhoi » March 24, 2011 2:45am | Report

Lazukin wrote:

Haven't tried it yet to be honest, but it looks good in theory, and you did a great job explaining things. I bookmarked for later.

Thank you, Lazukin ^^ If you have any questions about anything, feel free to ask! :3




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by Isleykun » March 24, 2011 8:22am | Report

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I'm so happy you don't take Madred's Bloodrazor early game. Ashe needs to focus on attack damage early game because it scales so well on her.


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by jhoijhoi » March 24, 2011 2:52pm | Report

Isleykun wrote:

I'm so happy you don't take Madred's Bloodrazor early game. Ashe needs to focus on attack damage early game because it scales so well on her.

Thanks for the +1, Isleykun!

Yes, Ashe really does need the attack damage early on, which is why a B. F. Sword should be your first major purchase. Yes it's expensive, but it's necessary. Madred's Bloodrazor is also very expensive, which is why it's towards the end of the list. Generally in a normal game, I only get to build up to finish Zeke's Herald anyway, before the game ends.




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