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Second, there are a number of junglers, aside from those you mentioned, that can defeinitely not be invaded at red. Off the top of my head that ***uld be definitely Udyr and also Shyvana, and maybe master Yi. Aside from the fact they might already be clearing red when you come there because of their fast clear, they also do insane amounts of damage early, and Udyr has the added problem of not getting that low in the jungle. Honestly any tanky jungler with fast clear will be a problem for you to invade. Also i see no problem in invading a nasus earlygame, as long as you make sure to kill him before his wither comes into effect or bait him into the bush where your JitB's are.
Just my 2 cents.