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League of Legends Build Guide Author Vapora Dark

Vapora's Guide To Talon

Vapora Dark Last updated on June 23, 2013
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SirKnox's Forum Avatar by SirKnox » March 31, 2013 11:07am | Report

Vapora Dark wrote:

Any time.


I will make you regret saying that. ;)


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Smacatau's Forum Avatar by Smacatau » April 2, 2013 5:50am | Report

Good guide.Works better than fine.+1 upvote.

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Cagil's Forum Avatar by Cagil » April 2, 2013 1:29pm | Report

Amazing guide. Can 100-0 someone so quickly with this build.

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woechie1254's Forum Avatar by woechie1254 » April 2, 2013 2:41pm | Report

thx realy good build i've got 33 kills in a normal game

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BigPapaBado's Forum Avatar by BigPapaBado » April 2, 2013 5:41pm | Report

Great guide btw, just checked out your guide today and actually made me create an account just to thumbs you up. It looks like I've been building my talon accordingly ^-^.
But you really save up that much money to buy 2 + bt's? My final build is usually:
Merc threads, BT, ghostblade, black cleaver, LW and GA.

But if you have a more bursting build, I'd like to know. Like what you personally use, The general build you posted is alright for a beg. Talon player, but I'd like to take massive damage instead being "balanced."

Edit: Also about the runes, I use quint of attack dmg. But would speed be better?

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Kobash's Forum Avatar by Kobash » April 2, 2013 6:27pm | Report

Thanks for this incredible guide.
I had my best LoL games after reading your guide.

My Talon skills improved a lot after reading your guide and following your advices. It also helped me improve my game in general.

Keep up the great work and thanks for sharing all this great knowledge.

Vapora Dark's Forum Avatar by Vapora Dark » April 3, 2013 1:00pm | Report

BigPapaBado wrote:

Great guide btw, just checked out your guide today and actually made me create an account just to thumbs you up. It looks like I've been building my talon accordingly ^-^.
But you really save up that much money to buy 2 + bt's? My final build is usually:
Merc threads, BT, ghostblade, black cleaver, LW and GA.

But if you have a more bursting build, I'd like to know. Like what you personally use, The general build you posted is alright for a beg. Talon player, but I'd like to take massive damage instead being "balanced."

Edit: Also about the runes, I use quint of attack dmg. But would speed be better?

Actually, a massive burst build would be my beginners' build, and the "balanced" one I have right now is for intermediates / experienced players. :P If you run into a team-fight with 1.9k HP you just instantly melt. Not so much at level ~20 because players aren't smart enough to focus you at that level, but at any respectable Elo players will focus you if you're a glass cannon.

There IS a bigger burst build which is what I use though. Boots > Brutalizer > Tiamat > BT > Last Whisper > Black Cleaver > Warmog's > Ravenous Hydra. It's just flat out better than what I have on the cheat sheet right now, because Tiamat's active is super broken on burst casters. However, no one realizes that, and I usually get flamed at in-game for taking Tiamat, because they're too dumb to read the active. For that very same reason I don't rush Tiamat after Brutalizer in the cheat sheet; I don't want to get instantly down-voted by people too stupid to read why I take it.

There's also the fact that, like I said, it's broken, and the less people that know that, the better, so I both don't have to play against it, and don't have to have it nerfed if it becomes popular.

Just so long as you remember to use Tiamat's active, you will definitely notice a large increase in burst as soon as you complete Tiamat. If you feel like you don't need any sustain either, take Last Whisper BEFORE BT, because that actually does more damage. I take BT for sustain, 'cuz Vamp scepter on it's own don't cut it.

Also, always upgrade Tiamat to Ravenous Hydra after you've completed the rest of your build, 'cuz while Tiamat is insanely good, the upgrade from Tiamat to Ravenous Hydra isn't very cost effective; it's 1200 gold for 25 AD and some lifesteal.

And if you want a "beginner's" build, aka one with immense burst damage but not balanced out with survivability, just replace Warmog's Armor with a 2nd BT.

And never take ghostblade, it's **** on Talon. <3


Zed = Talon 2.0 MY ***

SirAeros's Forum Avatar by SirAeros » April 3, 2013 1:41pm | Report

Vapora Dark wrote:


Actually, a massive burst build would be my beginners' build, and the "balanced" one I have right now is for intermediates / experienced players. :P If you run into a team-fight with 1.9k HP you just instantly melt. Not so much at level ~20 because players aren't smart enough to focus you at that level, but at any respectable Elo players will focus you if you're a glass cannon.

There IS a bigger burst build which is what I use though. Boots > Brutalizer > Tiamat > BT > Last Whisper > Black Cleaver > Warmog's > Ravenous Hydra. It's just flat out better than what I have on the cheat sheet right now, because Tiamat's active is super broken on burst casters. However, no one realizes that, and I usually get flamed at in-game for taking Tiamat, because they're too dumb to read the active. For that very same reason I don't rush Tiamat after Brutalizer in the cheat sheet; I don't want to get instantly down-voted by people too stupid to read why I take it.

There's also the fact that, like I said, it's broken, and the less people that know that, the better, so I both don't have to play against it, and don't have to have it nerfed if it becomes popular.

Just so long as you remember to use Tiamat's active, you will definitely notice a large increase in burst as soon as you complete Tiamat. If you feel like you don't need any sustain either, take Last Whisper BEFORE BT, because that actually does more damage. I take BT for sustain, 'cuz Vamp scepter on it's own don't cut it.

Also, always upgrade Tiamat to Ravenous Hydra after you've completed the rest of your build, 'cuz while Tiamat is insanely good, the upgrade from Tiamat to Ravenous Hydra isn't very cost effective; it's 1200 gold for 25 AD and some lifesteal.

And if you want a "beginner's" build, aka one with immense burst damage but not balanced out with survivability, just replace Warmog's Armor with a 2nd BT.

And never take ghostblade, it's **** on Talon. <3


Vapora you underrate Ghostbalde a bit sure its not like the best Talon item ever

but still 10x better than the Trininty Force(which you actually say its viable blergh)

you have to take a note that Ghostblade was like overbuffed this season and gives more and less twice the pen it gave Heck with Cleaver-GB-LW and Apen Reds and Quints you can turn 90 Armor to 0 without Cleaver

Vapora Dark's Forum Avatar by Vapora Dark » April 3, 2013 3:05pm | Report

SirAeros wrote:



Vapora you underrate Ghostbalde a bit sure its not like the best Talon item ever

but still 10x better than the Trininty Force(which you actually say its viable blergh)

you have to take a note that Ghostblade was like overbuffed this season and gives more and less twice the pen it gave Heck with Cleaver-GB-LW and Apen Reds and Quints you can turn 90 Armor to 0 without Cleaver

Yeah, but it's 2700 gold for 30 AD and 20 ArPen. And unless you're willing to forgoe defenses, the only viable item to replace it with is BT.

Edit: Trinity Force sucks super hard on him, but if you're super hyper mega fed and your team are complete ******s and everyone is 0/10, it's time to shout YOLO and grab Trinity Force to try and DPS the **** out of them with your epic feed. Sometimes it works and you turn the game around, sometimes it doesn't.

99% of the time, it sucks. But at the same time, it's viable, if that makes any sense. :>


Zed = Talon 2.0 MY ***

SirAeros's Forum Avatar by SirAeros » April 3, 2013 3:41pm | Report

Vapora Dark wrote:


Yeah, but it's 2700 gold for 30 AD and 20 ArPen. And unless you're willing to forgoe defenses, the only viable item to replace it with is BT.

Edit: Trinity Force sucks super hard on him, but if you're super hyper mega fed and your team are complete ******s and everyone is 0/10, it's time to shout YOLO and grab Trinity Force to try and DPS the **** out of them with your epic feed. Sometimes it works and you turn the game around, sometimes it doesn't.

99% of the time, it sucks. But at the same time, it's viable, if that makes any sense. :>


err what I'm saying is actually that YG Outclasses Trinity in that same role you said

I mean lets compare:

Trinity Force cost 3903(or IDK how it costs nowadays) for 250 HP(which in the league of Warmogs is like nothing) and a Proc(which is outclassed by 20 pen) as the rest is uselless stats or Yommus already have alongside(and still gets 10% CDR) meaning with YG you can get like a Full Component Item over TF.


Take in Consideration that the real Benefit from Trinity only by ACTUALLY COMPLETING IT it since all of its components are weak on Talon at best while Bruta well its F**** BRUTA NUFF Said and while Avarice its not really great its still a GP5 and heck 90% of time you don't even buy it due to how cheap
is to upp Bruta into Yommus


PS:in a complete random thing what do you think of Dat sexy Udyr Q change with that i will be able to Rock my OP build with him a gain YAY


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