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League of Legends Build Guide Author ImDooly

Vayne - Season 5 Diamond - The Hyper Carry

ImDooly Last updated on October 24, 2015
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Sough | October 29, 2015 7:05am
Hello !
Great vayne tips, it really helped me since I used to take a 6 damage item build before I saw your guide.
I have a question, what should I do for example when the ennemy team has a strong vi who always focus me during tf (with her ult) ?
Should I buy an early banshees veil or...?
Thanks
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Shairen The Wolf | March 4, 2015 7:08pm
it's one of the best combination on my opinion, even if i'm new i feel comfortable with that.
But sometimes I use the "runaan"
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ImDooly (1) | July 30, 2014 11:40pm
Packdemon wrote:

You should update the notes (attachment) on the runes. They look like they were meant for back when Greater Quintessence of Life Steal were on your build page.


Thanks for pointing that out :)
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Packdemon (28) | July 25, 2014 11:33am
You should update the notes (attachment) on the runes. They look like they were meant for back when Greater Quintessence of Life Steal were on your build page.
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ImDooly (1) | July 19, 2014 6:02am
Packdemon wrote:

Hey ImDooly, can Vayne run the Blade of the Ruined King+ Youmuu's Ghostblade combo that Twitch and Lucian run or in your opinion do you still think Phantom Dancer is better?


Yes I think she can, I usually would only go a build like that if I'm snowballing hard but yes, it is definitely viable atm.
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Packdemon (28) | July 13, 2014 9:38pm
Hey ImDooly, can Vayne run the Blade of the Ruined King+ Youmuu's Ghostblade combo that Twitch and Lucian run or in your opinion do you still think Phantom Dancer is better?
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Raex (1) | June 27, 2014 11:29am
because spirit visage does not protect of a enemy CC
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Pauli COJ | June 24, 2014 1:20am
why not spirit visage, as it increases life steal, instead of Banshee's Veil ?
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Raex (1) | June 20, 2014 3:02pm
In wich situations you would max q first,and in wich yo would max w first?
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Sellis7 | June 18, 2014 6:48am
Can you update this?
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ImDooly (1) | May 26, 2014 10:08pm

Lol I did great thanks to this build. 16/1 and 3/2 (they surrender at 20) I pushed bot in 15 mins and got mids 2cnd turrent and just pushed them away when they wanted to team gank me. Braum was my supp and he ended up like jg lol


Glad I could help. If you enjoyed the guide upvotes are always appreciated :)
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ForsakenChey | May 26, 2014 10:12am
Lol I did great thanks to this build. 16/1 and 3/2 (they surrender at 20) I pushed bot in 15 mins and got mids 2cnd turrent and just pushed them away when they wanted to team gank me. Braum was my supp and he ended up like jg lol
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Wytdvil | May 26, 2014 6:06am
I just started playing adc and vayne is my girl. Your guide is exactly what I've been doing so well done cause it works.
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TGSloDefib | May 16, 2014 7:42am
ImDooly wrote:

The important thing to remember about defensive items is that you need to look more at the utility they provide and less on their base stats (for the ADC role, anyway). Against fed AD champs who's damage can be impaired by Quicksilver Sash such as a Zed who's Death Mark burst can be stopped (the pop at the end), QSS is a great item. Against AD champs like Vi who specialise in long range initiation/gap closers, Banshee's Veil is a great item. If your enemy has consistent DPS and is Melee, like a Jax, the slow from Frozen Mallet really helps. Guardian Angel is often a very good pick too, but remember you need to position well for it reach its true potential is a good defensive item.

Hope that helped :)

It did yeah, thanks a lot. Up voted btw - i like your interaction and it shows you know a lot about vayne/adc.
Just some advice that I feel it'd make your guide look a little bit better:

1) Add some icons next to the things you're talking about (like what you did in the match-ups section).
Something like this for masteries: http://gyazo.com/9f8c895f14f494f5725a0389a121d123
and items: http://gyazo.com/cec319f85f0fb5f97a346d6f2d3a6820
do the same for sum spells etc.

2) Also under ''how to carry as vayne'' maybe ad a video?
ad some stuff to help people understand what to do with vayne maybe with positioning or maybe just a disection of a play someone made on vayne (not necesarely under that section but you get my point)

3) I don't see a section of (indepth) skill explanation and the leveling up explanation. Something like this would make some people understand why you decide to max it 1st/2nd/3rd etc. you can even ad what you told me earlier: max q 1st for mobility or w for more burst damage. Like this:
- http://gyazo.com/eb6a0a7e60004c6d90d7fb7306847fd0
- http://gyazo.com/b5869844b5fd85e7a5c35e989fda8d96
- http://gyazo.com/b4c76d0e0b89e0826f8ae4de84357494

4) ad some graphics at the begining of each section (examples in previous links). just helps with noticing when you're going into a new chapter and makes your guide look more pretty ^^

5) Think about expanding the lane match-ups section. Imo I'd at least ad lucian since you see him the most in this meta (next to those 3 you already have). Then maybe add twitch, corki and graves as well later on (ez and sivir i also see from time ot time).

Thanks again and i hope some of these help (although i'm pretty sure i'm not thefirst one telling you these)! :)
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ImDooly (1) | May 12, 2014 11:49pm
TGSloDefib wrote:

Hey, me again. I was wondering what defensive item would you get against heavy AD teams or if their AD champs and really fed while the AP champs are really behind and do no damage. Randuins? warmogs? fr malet? sunfire? GA? thornmail?

E.g. I just played a game where Vi had 13 out of 17 of their kills. What defensive item to get?
These are the teams if it helps:
Their team: mundo (top), Vi (jungle), kayle (mid), Cait leona (bot).
My team: trynda (top), elise (jugnle), zed (mid), me as vayne and morgana (bot).


The important thing to remember about defensive items is that you need to look more at the utility they provide and less on their base stats (for the ADC role, anyway). Against fed AD champs who's damage can be impaired by Quicksilver Sash such as a Zed who's Death Mark burst can be stopped (the pop at the end), QSS is a great item. Against AD champs like Vi who specialise in long range initiation/gap closers, Banshee's Veil is a great item. If your enemy has consistent DPS and is Melee, like a Jax, the slow from Frozen Mallet really helps. Guardian Angel is often a very good pick too, but remember you need to position well for it reach its true potential is a good defensive item.

Hope that helped :)
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TGSloDefib | May 10, 2014 2:56pm
Hey, me again. I was wondering what defensive item would you get against heavy AD teams or if their AD champs and really fed while the AP champs are really behind and do no damage. Randuins? warmogs? fr malet? sunfire? GA? thornmail?

E.g. I just played a game where Vi had 13 out of 17 of their kills. What defensive item to get?
These are the teams if it helps:
Their team: mundo (top), Vi (jungle), kayle (mid), Cait leona (bot).
My team: trynda (top), elise (jugnle), zed (mid), me as vayne and morgana (bot).
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TGSloDefib | May 9, 2014 2:38pm
ImDooly wrote:

I don't understand how you could R first? You can only level it up at levels 6,11, and 16 (and obviously should when you can). Maxing e first isn't viable because it is extremely mana hungry (Vayne has a small mana-pool), offers no considerable damage and basically means you are preparing yourself to lose laning phase. E Should always be maxed last (and is maxed last 100% of the time by pro players). Maxing Q or W first doesn't really matter. Q provides more mobility and is good for quick in-and-out trades. Maxing W first will provide higher DPS in long trades and is particularly good to max if you have have a support with high CC, allowing you to get 3 shots (and a proc) into the enemy.

Thanks a lot for the explanation. As for the R being there, it is not ment to say you max r first but that you level up r any time you can (and you don't max q over it). but r>q>w>e = q>w>e, just that most people leave out the r because it's common knowledge that you max r whenever possible but I still like to keep it in there :)
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ImDooly (1) | May 8, 2014 9:44pm
TGSloDefib wrote:

Hey dude.
On another guide I saw that that person maxes r>e>q>w. I can't remember for sure but i think that his/hers thoughts were R(obvious why)>E(provides your disengage early game to be on a lower cooldown)>Q(added mobility for mid game)>W(this is a late game ability so it should be maxed last).
What are your thoughts on it, what the pros and what the cons, why do you prefer to max r>q>w>e...
Edit: Also somewhere I saw people max r>w>q>e

Also that they prefer to take 9 in utility for bonus movespeed, mana regen, biscuits instead of 9 in defence. Do you think this is better/worse?
Edit: I found this answer to the masteries question in your guide while reading over it again. No need to answer it :)

I'd just like to know to get a bit better with vayne.
Thanks for the answer!



I don't understand how you could R first? You can only level it up at levels 6,11, and 16 (and obviously should when you can). Maxing e first isn't viable because it is extremely mana hungry (Vayne has a small mana-pool), offers no considerable damage and basically means you are preparing yourself to lose laning phase. E Should always be maxed last (and is maxed last 100% of the time by pro players). Maxing Q or W first doesn't really matter. Q provides more mobility and is good for quick in-and-out trades. Maxing W first will provide higher DPS in long trades and is particularly good to max if you have have a support with high CC, allowing you to get 3 shots (and a proc) into the enemy.
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TGSloDefib | May 7, 2014 8:26am
Hey dude.
On another guide I saw that that person maxes r>e>q>w. I can't remember for sure but i think that his/hers thoughts were R(obvious why)>E(provides your disengage early game to be on a lower cooldown)>Q(added mobility for mid game)>W(this is a late game ability so it should be maxed last).
What are your thoughts on it, what the pros and what the cons, why do you prefer to max r>q>w>e...
Edit: Also somewhere I saw people max r>w>q>e

Also that they prefer to take 9 in utility for bonus movespeed, mana regen, biscuits instead of 9 in defence. Do you think this is better/worse?
Edit: I found this answer to the masteries question in your guide while reading over it again. No need to answer it :)

I'd just like to know to get a bit better with vayne.
Thanks for the answer!
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notimee | April 30, 2014 7:51am
nice guide really it heped me alot
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ItsGoT1me | April 29, 2014 6:33pm
Nice guide!
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Menset | April 22, 2014 6:09am
Very nice Guide. Well thought out.

Good Work
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othisdede (2) | April 19, 2014 7:45am
I'm just bored of people always talking to max w when you're going pd-botrk build.In my aspect its pretty much personal preference.It really helps when csing;getting quick 2 hits and extra invisible seconds.It adds mobility to you.Overall a fine guide but needs some work on lane matchups and you need to add a support section in this guide.
edit:actually i remember the whole community here saying trinity isnt worth.now its on the top vayne guide.
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ShappyTheLegend | April 19, 2014 2:42am
AWESOME guide! Keep up the good work!
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CrossTheLine | April 16, 2014 2:27pm
Nice guide, learned a lot from it!
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EdisonKhoo (74) | March 4, 2014 1:49am
Need to mention a few things:
  • Suggest you to add more icons, it will make your guide look beautiful.
  • You need to explain your skill sequence.
  • Suggest you to add a "Synergies" and "Gameplay" Chapter.
  • Order some Banners and/or Signature for your guide.(Suggestion only, up to you :p)





This is just a short review of your guide, so don't be mad about not giving much information on the suggestions :p
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I eXample I | March 3, 2014 11:34pm
Same build as I use. Its not bad. But I prefer using a bloodthirster instead of a GA.
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Kigalion | March 3, 2014 10:55pm
Yay vayne! Great guide!
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Packdemon (28) | March 3, 2014 2:56pm
aDaptor wrote:

Why take a point in Double-Edged Sword when Warlord gives the same amount of % dmg while you take additional damage when picking Double-Edged Sword

Generally and ADC (marksman) should be dealing more damage then they are dealt (especially with their range), so Double-Edged Sword is an obvious pick. Tanks of course would never choose that mastery. I think that ImDrooly made the right decision.
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Packdemon (28) | March 3, 2014 2:44pm
This is a good standard Vayne build. I think that I will really enjoy trying this build.
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ImDooly (1) | March 1, 2014 3:44pm

I understand Dangerous Game , but if you're going to take a point from Warlord , it is not worth it. Take the point from Frenzy if you must.

Otherwise, the rest of the content is not lacking, but could be more presentable.


Vayne scales much better with Attack Speed than more Marksmen. Frenzy is very important on Vayne for that reason. Also, Dangerous Game really helps duel multiple targets or keep you alive from ignite in a duel. I feel that it is significantly more helpful than a little bit more AD. This may be different for other Marksmen , but I feel that my masteries are good for Vayne. :)
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FantasySniper (15) | March 1, 2014 11:01am
I understand Dangerous Game , but if you're going to take a point from Warlord , it is not worth it. Take the point from Frenzy if you must.

Otherwise, the rest of the content is not lacking, but could be more presentable.
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ImDooly (1) | February 24, 2014 2:20pm

I was using something similar to this build but switched over to this when I saw it. Works great. I'm not very good at building my champs the right way so I was wondering why everyone chooses Phantom Dancer over Runnan's Hurricane. Hurricane has better attack speed and gives the potential for more money with the three bolts. Probably a stupid question but I'd rather sound dumb than play dumb.



Runaan's Hurricane is actually considered a trash item by high elo and professional players. I literally never see it in any of my Platinum games nor ever when watching a stream of pros. The critical strike chance, movement bonus and passive of Phantom Dancer are far more superior on any Marksman compared to Runaan's Hurricane.

Crit chance is a large part of late-game DPS for ADCs, so having the combination of an Infinity Edge and Phantom Dancer for the high crit chance is important :)
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WillingSacrifice | February 22, 2014 5:13pm
I was using something similar to this build but switched over to this when I saw it. Works great. I'm not very good at building my champs the right way so I was wondering why everyone chooses Phantom Dancer over Runnan's Hurricane. Hurricane has better attack speed and gives the potential for more money with the three bolts. Probably a stupid question but I'd rather sound dumb than play dumb.
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aDaptor (24) | January 5, 2014 11:21pm
Why take a point in Double-Edged Sword when Warlord gives the same amount of % dmg while you take additional damage when picking Double-Edged Sword
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ShadowNzs | January 5, 2014 11:09pm
Nice guide and nice layout
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Wraithhz | January 1, 2014 5:18pm
I will see my home again!
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hidan159 (30) | December 29, 2013 2:27am
Here it is :) But use yome Pictures and Signatures. Your Guide will look better :)
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hidan159 (30) | December 29, 2013 2:26am
ImDooly wrote:



As I explained in a previous comment: Maxing Silver Bolts first is very situational, but yes, it's viable. If you are in a situation where you can't get off three autos and therefore a proc and you max your Silver Bolts you're going to have an even weaker laning phase. More often than not, maxing Tumble first is the right way to go. Exceptions include attack speed steroid supports such as Nunu's Blood Boil.

Anyway, you're going to be finished maxing your second ability, in this case Silver Bolts by the time you finish your second item and become really attack speed oriented.


Ok nice :)
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ImDooly (1) | December 28, 2013 8:29pm
hidan159 wrote:

I think you should max first W if you buy Phantom Dancer and Blade of the Ruined King.


As I explained in a previous comment: Maxing Silver Bolts first is very situational, but yes, it's viable. If you are in a situation where you can't get off three autos and therefore a proc and you max your Silver Bolts you're going to have an even weaker laning phase. More often than not, maxing Tumble first is the right way to go. Exceptions include attack speed steroid supports such as Nunu's Blood Boil.

Anyway, you're going to be finished maxing your second ability, in this case Silver Bolts by the time you finish your second item and become really attack speed oriented.
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hidan159 (30) | December 28, 2013 7:56pm
I think you should max first W if you buy Phantom Dancer and Blade of the Ruined King.
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Wongstar (2) | December 27, 2013 5:18pm
ImDooly wrote:

What information would you like to see, and where exactly did my layout go wrong?


Just look into some other Vayne-Builds and you'll maybe find out yourself about Content and Layout/BBCoding Stuff etc. Simply compare with other people's guides and you should see the huge Difference. If you still don't know, then i can't help you. Sorry. Maybe you PM our Mother of MobaFire for further tips & convention rules.
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ImDooly (1) | December 27, 2013 5:02pm
What information would you like to see, and where exactly did my layout go wrong?
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Wongstar (2) | December 27, 2013 4:43pm
ImDooly wrote:




I actually really disliked jhoihoi's guide. He recommends Long Sword and Health Potion starting items, this isn't nearly as good, in my and many pros opinions, as Doran's Blade. He aslo recommends Randuin's Omen as a situational where I reccomend Banshee's Veil. I have the same Final Build recommendation because it's the best currently, I'm not going to change it just for the sake of changing it.


I don't care if you don't like her Guide. Also i never told you to change the Final Build Recommendation, but rather to update your guide with more content & better Layout/BBCoding. But if you don't want to change for the sake of changing it, then leave it.
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ImDooly (1) | December 27, 2013 4:28pm
Wongstar wrote:

Sorry -1 for too little content and a bad Layout/BBCoding. Read jhoihoi's guide for making a good guide. And somehow your Build is nothing new for Vayne-Players, when we already have jhoihoi's Vayne-Guide with almost the same Final Build Recommendation. I have more flaws to tell, but i leave it by this. If you improve your build i'll cancel my downvote. ;-)



I actually really disliked jhoihoi's guide. She recommends Long Sword and Health Potion starting items, this isn't nearly as good, in my and many pros opinions, as Doran's Blade. He aslo recommends Randuin's Omen as a situational where I reccomend Banshee's Veil. I have the same Final Build recommendation because it's the best currently, I'm not going to change it just for the sake of changing it.
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Wongstar (2) | December 27, 2013 4:12pm
Sorry -1 for too little content and a bad Layout/BBCoding. Read jhoihoi's guide for making a good guide. And somehow your Build is nothing new for Vayne-Players, when we already have jhoihoi's Vayne-Guide with almost the same Final Build Recommendation. I have more flaws to tell, but i leave it by this. If you improve your build i'll cancel my downvote. ;-)
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thangnd_1211 (7) | December 27, 2013 7:58am
thanks for good guide :D
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ImDooly (1) | December 27, 2013 4:03am
I completely disagree with you. Guardian Angel is a very solid pick in a lot of situations but is by NO means something that should be bought every single game. [Mercurial Scrimitar is an extremely good defensive item in a lot of situations. I suggest you watch some of the pro scene from any region as you will see that many of the worlds most renowned marksman ie Piglet, Uzi, Doublelift and Imp all quite frequently build Quicksilver Sash and hence Mercurial Scimitar as their defensive item.

I will however take note that I need to put in some explanation of my runes and masteries.
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pepsiM4A1 (45) | December 27, 2013 3:28am
Quoted:
Mercurial Scimitar is great replacement for Guardian Angel

Nah, Guardian Angel is core therefore must be bough in every game.
You lack explanations(runes, masteries) and The Bloodthirster is a good alternative if you get insanely fed/ahead in the early game.
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WhoopsTypo (2) | December 26, 2013 6:52pm
May need a bit more in the Coding department: http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/wiki/mobafire/bbcode-guide. But other than that.. all good
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ImDooly (1) | December 26, 2013 4:02pm
Vynertje wrote:

if you get blade+PD/shiv first, you should max W first because it stacks with attack speed, while Q stacks with AD


By the time you get your second core item and start to become really attack speed orientated your Silver Bolts (W) will be maxed/near maxed. If you max your Silver Bolts (W) first and find yourself in a match up where you simply aren't able to get 3 autos and hence, a proc off, you are going to be significantly worse at trading.

If you look at the notes for my ability leveling (hove cursor over the Notes you will see that I mention the viability of maxing your Silver Bolts (W) in certain situations.
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Vynertje (381) | December 26, 2013 3:33pm
if you get blade+PD/shiv first, you should max W first because it stacks with attack speed, while Q stacks with AD
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ImDooly (1) | December 26, 2013 11:38am
I really appreciate your constructive criticism, thank you! This is my first guide and I am very inexperienced with Coding which is why I tried to keep it to a minimum. This is something I should work on.

The role of a marksman is to do the highest DPS possible, this is why I have taken the double-edged sword mastery. I am aware that it doesn't increase true damage but I feel that if a player has adequate skills to position and kite that this mastery is still very much worth taking.
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Maintained (146) | December 26, 2013 11:10am
I have a few things;
  • You took Double-Edged Sword on Vayne. First of all, it doesn't increase the true damage. Second of all, I think you're too squishy to risk tanking that extra 1.5% damage.
  • You have hardly any BBcode in your guide. You should work on that.
  • You did not explain why you picked those runes and masteries. Most good guides do that, you should too, no matter how obvious it may seem.
  • You have a few grammar errors here and there. You should be careful, it is essential. I'll point one out for you:
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