7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=H4xDefender]Maokai support is 100% not viable sorry. Nautilus support/top might be ok now, still not 100% sold on his jungle, nor am I sold on any other tank jungler besides sej yet. I've been really tired recently and haven't had time to personally test in too many games, expect a full update after the weekend.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=NicknameMy][[Zhonya's Hourglass]] and [[quicksilver sash]] stop [[zed]], only leaves [[talon]]. How good does [[talon]] do vs [[cassiopeia]]?[/quote] Not really true zed can work around qss even in the late game but he does fall off later on.[/quote]

[quote=Shuru]I used zac, his first clear is rather reliable (imho), and he has decent gank pressure, though maybe not as fast as Lee or Vi (but can we all just agree that Lee and Vi aren't balanced in the slightest and shouldn't be able to gank after a full jungle clear). Zac feels like he's in an OK spot, I wouldn't say top, though. I can't be entirely sure though, I'll wait for a better player to assess him.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]From what i played tank junglers are better not a huge difference i think vi is still strong and all same ones last patch. The thing is if you can get the tank junglers out of early game there just better so you dont want to buff tanks way to much other wise lee sin and champs like that will be pointless. Sej is only tank jungler i feel tier 1. Nice buffs and changes it made the tank slow clear jungler's viable as a pocket pick type tier 2 champs.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][quote=H4xDefender]Maokai support is 100% not viable sorry.[/quote] Got played in the LPL.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=NicknameMy][quote=H4xDefender]Maokai support is 100% not viable sorry.[/quote] Got played in the LPL.[/quote] [img]http://i.imgur.com/c6JIy37.gif[/img] [h5][url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcmylxQ0ma4&feature=youtu.be&t=1m47s]Source[/url][/h5][/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]I'm well aware OMG played it in LPL. It isn't viable. OMG had already secured a spot into playoffs, and they get most of their wins by rolling over teams with sheer individual skill. You won't ever see maokai support picked seriously.[/quote]

[quote=Blian][quote=Shuru]Zac feels like he's in an OK spot, I wouldn't say top, though. I can't be entirely sure though, I'll wait for a better player to assess him.[/quote] i think [[Zac]] is one of the few champions that I've never played and never will.. He seems just stupid to me. No offense tho![/quote]

[quote=Zordagoth]How can you not love this guy, he's litterally the only one having FUN here, when you jump you'll hear him "WOOOOOOOOOO" =D I think [[Nautilus]] will not be more picked than before, the changes are really good but it's not like he became super strong. I'm sad people will start to ban my [[Sejuani]] now T.T [[Sion]] got nerfed in lane, buffed in the jungle, MOAR HP STACKS !! Might play him there again =) I really feel like [[Rammus]] is back to business [img]http://i.imgur.com/Yp7svtc.jpg?1[/img][/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]Only did an [[elise]] game, won it pretty easily but I think it was more the enemy skill level than what I bought. Sej feels really strong though[/quote]