Champion trends.

[quote=Zell][quote=Rincrow] [quote]She is nothing like Udyr. Udyr has zero skill-shots and achieving his skill cap mainly constitutes of knowing how to use bear stance effectively in team-fights and timing turtle stance correctly aka no where near as high.[/quote] You misunderstood what I said. I never said that they had similar playstyles or abilities. Just that they have higher skillcaps than most champions. Might bot be the highest in the game but higher than most. [/quote] No I didn't misunderstand you, I mentioned skill-shot since that's a contributing factor in skill-cap and Udyr doesn't have a high skill-cap.[/quote]

[quote=Rincrow][quote=Zell] No I didn't misunderstand you, I mentioned skill-shot since that's a contributing factor in skill-cap and Udyr doesn't have a high skill-cap. [/quote] If you insist. And Udyr has a higher than average skill cap cause of the need to constantly switch into the correct stance. That's why a lot of people feel Udyr is lackluster and underpowered when they first play him. But it seems we won't be able to agree on this. To each there own.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]Actually udyr [I]is[/I] kinda ez But I see ur point, that he may be confusing for newer players at first. There's a difference between skillcap and ease of pickup tho. As for the OP, Talon is a big one that comes to mind. hes still real good, but no one rly plays him much anymore. Tho, he does kindaaa depend on snowballing early on, but that's usually prty ez on him. Meh.[/quote]

[quote=Zell][quote=Rincrow] [quote=Zell] No I didn't misunderstand you, I mentioned skill-shot since that's a contributing factor in skill-cap and Udyr doesn't have a high skill-cap. [/quote] If you insist. And Udyr has a higher than average skill cap cause of the need to constantly switch into the correct stance. That's why a lot of people feel Udyr is lackluster and underpowered when they first play him. But it seems we won't be able to agree on this. To each there own. [/quote] His stances in most cases is just rotations... - Ganking [[Bear Stance]] > [[Tiger Stance]]/[[Phoenix Stance]] > [[Turtle Stance]] if tower diving or counter-ganked or in danger > Rinse and Repeat. - Teamfights [[Bear Stance]] necessary targets > [[Tiger Stance]]/[[Phoenix Stance]] > Spamming [[Turtle Stance]] inbetween if focused or taking heavy AoE damage > Rinse and Repeat. Of course that's simplified so to say he has a higher then average is rather meh in my view. I'd say hes just board line average cap.[/quote]