Grave's Patch Notes

[quote=Searz][quote=JunSupport] Orianna buff. 25 AA range, can't hurt. Will make the QQers shut up, but they still won't be able to master Orianna because they still won't have the skill or guts to enter auto-attack range, ever. :P[/quote] Still very lacking without blue buff. I still consider the mana nerf a few patches back unnecessary. [quote]Talon nerf - Ohhhh, that's gonna hurt his lane. He can't jungle, his only place was the solo[/quote] He was viable in ALL lanes, simply because he was OP. I mean, who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to put Talon's regen at RETARDEDLY HIGH amounts. Normal regen is about ~7HP5 and ~6MP5. 9.5HP5 and 10MP5 is just retarded, wtf..[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Like the [[corki]] buffs, this way, he could catch up with other AD-carries earlygame.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport][quote=Searz] Still very lacking without blue buff. [/quote] Anivia and Zilean have high mana-costs and they're still viable. (A lot of people really underestimate how fast [[Time Bomb]] can nom all your mana) Having high mana-costs and needing blue buff isn't a bad thing. It means the champion is difficult. [quote=Searz] He was viable in ALL lanes, simply because he was OP. I mean, who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to put Talon's regen at RETARDEDLY HIGH amounts. Normal regen is about ~7HP5 and ~6MP5. 9.5HP5 and 10MP5 is just retarded, wtf.. [/quote] Well, he's a melee who can't jungle. So, I wasn't surprised. He's got to go somewhere. lol Don't really see him being very good in duo-lane against support+carry combos, and mid seems sketchy, but I haven't seen any Talons go mid.[/quote]

[quote=Pwnzor1130]Talon mid is amazing due to the silence. You can easily harass most APs with little risk. Bottom lane is also very good, as it's similar to a Jax bottom lane.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=JunSupport] Anivia and Zilean have high mana-costs and they're still viable. (A lot of people really underestimate how fast [[Time Bomb]] can nom all your mana) Having high mana-costs and needing blue buff isn't a bad thing. It means the champion is difficult.[/quote] Zilean is fine because his laning is STRONK. I also belive he's also far more effective than Ori without blue buff. Anivia's mana costs on the other hand are a bit too high. Not so much her offensive abilities, but more her wall. I'd reduce Anivia's Q cost by 10 to 70/90/110/130/150 (160 mana on rank 5 is 40 mana more than Zilean's bombs. That is huge). It's still gonna be really high. And reduce her W cost to 50/65/80/95/110 from 70/90/110/130/150. The wall is really good, but has a high CD and a HUGE mana cost. The wall is simply too expensive to use in lane without blue buff.[/quote]

[quote=koksei]yeeha I like this patch. Deffers on Dominion will now get some more points aswell :) and Hextech was way to op if you got it rdy fast:D[/quote]