Season 5 Jungle Discussion

[quote=Nighthawk]To me anyone that doesn't have either super high damage and clear speed or extremely good sustain is going to fall off the map.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I was told the jungle would hurt a lot. I played Phoenix [[Udyr]] and cleared pretty fast while taking basically no damage.....so yea. I doubt he'll be good because he's still [[Udyr]], but I thought I'd mention that.[/quote]

[quote=TROLLing1999]What is/are the best jungle routes as of now? Any notable differences from S4? Any specifical variability from jungler to jungler?[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I was told the jungle would hurt a lot. I played Phoenix [[Udyr]] and cleared pretty fast while taking basically no damage.....so yea. I doubt he'll be good because he's still [[Udyr]], but I thought I'd mention that.[/quote] According to a few sources I've seen, [[Udyr]] actually got improved from S4 due to that very reason. Skirmisher's Sabre makes him impossible to 1v1, and Trailblazer makes him literally the fastest jungler in the game.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=TROLLing1999]What is/are the best jungle routes as of now? Any notable differences from S4? Any specifical variability from jungler to jungler?[/quote] Most the time youll do buff to wolves, to buff, Unless you simply cannot survive that long and do gromp to buff to wolves then back. If your name is [[Warwick]] or someone else with ridiculous sustain, you can stick around a bit longer. But generally you wanna get your machete upgrade as fast as possible.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]That makes me happy. I missed [[Udyr]] (he was the first jungler I learned, so serious nostalgia for me).[/quote]

[quote=TROLLing1999][quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=TROLLing1999]What is/are the best jungle routes as of now? Any notable differences from S4? Any specifical variability from jungler to jungler?[/quote] Most the time youll do buff to wolves, to buff, Unless you simply cannot survive that long and do gromp to buff to wolves then back. If your name is [[Warwick]] or someone else with ridiculous sustain, you can stick around a bit longer. But generally you wanna get your machete upgrade as fast as possible.[/quote] Still starting bottom side, right?[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][embed=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMWp2QUpLVQ&list=UU9U_UPJLasfZYZ0icNI0vBg] I already talked about them but here's the video for reference.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=TROLLing1999][quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=TROLLing1999]What is/are the best jungle routes as of now? Any notable differences from S4? Any specifical variability from jungler to jungler?[/quote] Most the time youll do buff to wolves, to buff, Unless you simply cannot survive that long and do gromp to buff to wolves then back. If your name is [[Warwick]] or someone else with ridiculous sustain, you can stick around a bit longer. But generally you wanna get your machete upgrade as fast as possible.[/quote] Still starting bottom side, right?[/quote] Yea[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I currently go Frog with [[smite]] -> Blue -> Red with [[smite]]. Since smiting red gives you hp and frog helps your clearing a lot, this seems to be the most efficient route.[/quote]