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[quote=Bioalchemist][quote=Toshabi] Am I really reading someone suggesting karma over sona? My head is leaking blood and stool samples. [/quote] you may want to see a doctor.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Karma is way better than Sona in every department except for the whole [[crescendo]] thing.[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi][quote=Luther3000] Karma is way better than Sona in every department except for the whole [[crescendo]] thing. [/quote] The part that matters. [img]http://icons.iconarchive.com/icons/pino/sesame-street/32/Cookie-Monster-2-icon.png[/img][/quote]

[quote=luizdeh][[karma]] is legit, don't know why your head exploded and shit came out. Having her over [[sona]] is perfectly fine albeit situational.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Toshabi] [quote=Luther3000] Karma is way better than Sona in every department except for the whole [[crescendo]] thing. [/quote] The part that matters. [img]http://icons.iconarchive.com/icons/pino/sesame-street/32/Cookie-Monster-2-icon.png[/img] [/quote] It matters, sure, but it's not like Karma's ult is completely useless. [[defiance]] is a huge amount of team mobility, especially when you combine it with [[talisman of ascension]], you can pretty much use it to force an engage/disengage anytime you want. It's like a mini-[[on the hunt]].[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=Toshabi] Am I really reading someone suggesting karma over sona? [/quote] I suggested her because [[Sona]]'s low base stats make her much more unforgiving early game. [[crescendo]] is good, but nearly everything else [[Sona]] does [[Karma]] can do more safely and, tbh, better....which matters if you don't feel comfortable relying on your allies.[/quote]

[quote=Nebrasketball]Karma relies entirely on her allies. Sona at least can carry with her ult. Karma is more comparable to janna but with lane presence.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]Late game, I agree with you. Early game, not so much. [[Sona]] has no CC early game except for a slow she can only proc with an auto-attack at barely over half the range of [[Inner flame]], no escape, and her poke is less consistent and has less range overall. Not to mention the fact that her base stats are terrible. I wasn't trying to be general. I was specifically stating that [[Karma]] is a safer pick early game than [[Sona]], which makes her a better pick if you can't trust your marksman to back you up.[/quote]

[quote=XeresAce][quote=Toshabi] Am I really reading someone suggesting karma over sona? My head is leaking blood and stool samples. [/quote] Am I really seeing somebody imply that sona is in any way better than karma? o_o Apart from crescendo, which isn't as important as you say it is, sona can't match up to karma whatsoever. Karmas utility with her [[defiance]] is almost as strong as crescendo when used correctly. The fact that karma has a weaker ult is completely made up for by every other skill. Karma's poke is way stronger, Karma's damage is miles higher and Karma's non ultimate mobility/cc is much stronger as-well. Oh did I forget to mention karma doesn't have to go 21 defense+ Dorans shield to hope of surviving the laning phase? and that Karma isn't a oneshot once people get close to her? Sona only retains some merit because of her ult, but even that isn't as amazing as it used to be...[/quote]

[quote=Bioalchemist]give tosh a break. he is over 1000 years old. plus he probably hasn't really played karma that much.[/quote]