SoloQ Support

[quote=Pheyniex][quote=Toshabi] My head is leaking blood and stool samples. [/quote] does this count as evidence of his head being full of cancerous shit? disclaimer: Pheyniex does not take any responsibility upon feelings of a 3rd party, be it offended, furious or happy. Any reference to cancer is justified by the simptoms described. No animals were hurt during the print of this disclaimer and there is no recocgnition of an authority to supervise this document.[/quote]

[quote=Nebrasketball][quote=The_Nameless_Bard] Late game, I agree with you. Early game, not so much. [[Sona]] has no CC early game except for a slow she can only proc with an auto-attack at barely over half the range of [[Inner flame]], no escape, and her poke is less consistent and has less range overall. Not to mention the fact that her base stats are terrible. I wasn't trying to be general. I was specifically stating that [[Karma]] is a safer pick early game than [[Sona]], which makes her a better pick if you can't trust your marksman to back you up. [/quote] Karma is safer, however if I didn't trust my ADC I would still rather play Sona, max heal and then have an ult to force fights when the enemy carries are out of position and not rely on the bad ADC to carry. Conversely, if I DID trust the ADC I think Karma is a great pick.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I wouldn't pick [[Sona]] regardless...if I wanted an AoE stun/good poke I'd just pick [[Annie]], who can stun at level 1 if she feels like it. lose the sustain, but have more consistent ability to harass early. >_> Don't get me wrong here, I like [[Sona]] a lot (she was my most played champion last season)...but she needs a buff to her early game stats like they gave to [[Soraka]] before I'd be very inclined to pick her this season.[/quote]

[quote=Nebrasketball]Sorry, my posts are going off the assumption you could only choose karma or sona. I would not pick either of them in ranked if any of the top triumvirate of supports were open.[/quote]

[quote=utopus][quote=The_Nameless_Bard] Don't get me wrong here, I like [[Sona]] a lot (she was my most played champion last season)...but she needs a buff to her early game stats like they gave to [[Soraka]] before I'd be very inclined to pick her this season. [/quote] Her latest nerf, where her healing got nerfed was just a slap in the face. Totally unnecessary, imo.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]According to double lift bot lane in 4.3 is shifted to ap champs morg, zyra and two best ones right now and lulu once nerfed mid and if it does not hurt her bot lane she will be op since you get so much gold and dmg from new ap item its better than TM now since it gives no combat stats and is just weak. Morg was sleep op now best support. Only problem is people in solo q not playing her right she is not like mid morg you dont jump into there team and ult you dont have that much power or gold to do that you use ult to peel for adc not hit hole team with hourglass maybe when you get ahead but average game no.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]Haven't tried [[zyra]] yet, I know that [[nami]] is really underrated right now for what she does and [[morgana]] can cheat at bush checking since her W procs spellthief really fast :3[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi][quote=XeresAce] [quote=Toshabi] Am I really reading someone suggesting karma over sona? My head is leaking blood and stool samples. [/quote] Am I really seeing somebody imply that sona is in any way better than karma? o_o Apart from crescendo, which isn't as important as you say it is, sona can't match up to karma whatsoever. Karmas utility with her [[defiance]] is almost as strong as crescendo when used correctly. The fact that karma has a weaker ult is completely made up for by every other skill. Karma's poke is way stronger, Karma's damage is miles higher and Karma's non ultimate mobility/cc is much stronger as-well. Oh did I forget to mention karma doesn't have to go 21 defense+ Dorans shield to hope of surviving the laning phase? and that Karma isn't a oneshot once people get close to her? Sona only retains some merit because of her ult, but even that isn't as amazing as it used to be... [/quote] In the end, we're arguing over which brand of doo doo smells better. Karma support is okay, but nothing great compared to what's out there, but any day, I'd take a sona over a karma if I had to choose.[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVIj1t5duP8]Any of you see this?[/url] Hes curses new support now i guess crazy because i just seen this video on front page reddit like 3 or 4 days ago about his crazy play and just today it was announced he is replacing saint i never realized it was him until now.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]Asian timing op[/quote]