Surge, core on all carries?

[quote=NicknameMy]Actually, I think, [[Surge]] should be core on all carries that need as or ap to deal their main part of damage. it is a really huge amount of it for a duration of a teamfight. You will deal big damage with it. It is better than [[exhaust]] for ranged because you don't have to get in range and it is better then [[ignite]] for the nuke combo from ap-carries. What do you think?[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]No, it's not good enough to be CORE for anyone. Exhaust and Flash/Ghost will be the obvious choice for most AD Carries because you can use both of them offensive and defensive. And Ignite is still better for AP Carries because it deals true damage and more damage than you get from the surge AP.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Not Core on anyone. We'll need to play with Surge more before we can start saying things like this.[/quote]

[quote=Adeori]Surge won't be core on anyone who does the main damage - Junglers need [[smite]], AD carries need [[exhaust]] and mages mostly get [[ignite]], which means they only have a slot open, which is generally used for an escape. Solo toppers will probably need [[teleport]]. Therefore, it'll be left to the support - And it depends to the support - However, it might be character dependant - I wouldn't get it on say... Alistar, because he has no natural escape mechanisms or auras - So I think it'd be better on [[Sona]], [[Taric]] and [[Janna]].[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]People who I feel it could be [b]marginally[/b] useful on. AP/Hybrid Ezreal, Orianna, Jax [b]maybe[/b] Fizz. Not much else that uses both AS and AP. Maybe have Cho/Phoenix Udyr in there too, IDK.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]Cho + Surge = massive deeps. But other spells are much better, namely exhaust and teleport.[/quote]

[quote=pasha]You don't 'get in range' for exhaust. During team fights exhaust is good on ad carry because then need to stand still in order to do damage, so when someone jumps on them they can exhaust that person and keep doing damage.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]skarner or shyvana?[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Considering Shyvana needs to jungle except in very specific match-ups, she needs to sacrifice Flash/Exhaust for Surge. Not that great of a trade. Same with Skarner.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=Lugignaf] People who I feel it could be [b]marginally[/b] useful on. AP/Hybrid Ezreal, Orianna, Jax [b]maybe[/b] Fizz. Not much else that uses both AS and AP. Maybe have Cho/Phoenix Udyr in there too, IDK. [/quote] Kayle.[/quote]