Vs Vladimir in mid.

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS][quote=ProAsylum] [quote=JEFFY40HANDS] I still dont see where kassadin beats vlad...tf definitely is questionable. All he can do is poke if he hard engages vlad trolls away....i get the feeling some people really dont play this game....or that they spend too little time thinking things through...i could be wrong about tf. I dont think im wrong about kassadin...range with sustain vs melee with no sustain...id just transfuse off you every time you came into cs. [/quote] Vlad is gaining sustain by spamming Q. Kassadin's silence and damage can nuke vlad. If vlad use W to avoid kassadin's Q, then he loses 20% of the current hp which is quite a lot AND he cant spam W. [/quote] Well thank goodness i get merc treads, take heal ignite, and know how to play otherwise what you said would totally phase me. Kassadin is over rated just like morganna. The main thing to remember is that kassadin is melee range. Has no sustain. and medium long cool downs. Vlad is ranged with medium long cool downs and has sustain. I can see the arguement but it's really not all that valid. Vlad can just harass kassadin out of lane.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]When Fizz ults you, can you pool to avoid effects of shark?[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][[Twisted Fate]]'s strongest points in the game are levels 1, 2 and 6. After that he loses a lot. The only reason he is strong post 6 is for his gank/counter gank potential. Even then it isn't that strong after the laning phase. I'd say the only way he beats vlad is level 1 and 2. I actually think vladimir is fundamentally broken champion. There are very few champions that scale into the game as well as he does. His passive makes items immensely valuable on him, and his tides of blood scales up his damage extremely quickly, not to mention his ult. all around vlad's damage scales upwards so retardidly I can't believe riot hasn't nerfed this guy to Eve status. I don't think anyone counters vlad, [[Fizz]] may be the only one, even then, vlad can beat him by playing safe and farming out the lane. Pretty much once vlad gets [[Will of the Ancients]] the game is over unless he's like a full item or 2 behind. He's retarded broken [quote=Crows foot] When Fizz ults you, can you pool to avoid effects of shark? [/quote] Yes, but you can still pick it up I believe. Additionally you can't pool to drop shark[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]Vlad has a REALLY hard time against fizz, eve if they farm even until 6 the range of fizz ulti is too great and he can towerdive hard too.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]fizz can tower dive at level 2[/quote]

[quote=sh0cki]Strange that no1 mentioned Cassio as ultimate Vlad counter. Regarding Kass vs Vlad - as Vlad 9/21/0 with mresist runepages you are permanently on lane and Kass has to choose if he try to farm when you can annoy him constantly, or harass you with his skills and go OOM quite fast. There is no way how to harass Vlad out of mid lane if he choose to start defensive and stay there forever. But with CC junglers like Mao or Lee Kassadin should destroy you if they time ganks good. But that is true for like every hero, mby excluding morgana :D[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Cass "counters" everyone which is why it "goes WITHOUT saying" :P[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Cass "counters" everyone which is why it "goes WITHOUT saying" :P [/quote] [[Cassiopeia]] has very few counters would perhaps be more accurate :P[/quote]