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[quote=Luther3000][quote=ArcCain] [quote=Luther3000] Ability power per level quints don't outscale flat until level 13(actually level 12, my mistake), and AP reds and yellows suck. You get 9 AP from AP/lvl reds and yellows at level 18. I'll take my 8.55 Mpen all game and 175 health at level 18 over 18 AP at level 18 any day. [/quote] But the I could just as well grab Sorceress shoes, how common is mass stack magic resist runs now a day´s? [/quote] Sorc shoes = 20 Mpen Mpen reds = 8.55 Mpen =28.55 Mpen All champions starting MR, assuming no runes/masteries = 30 Not to mention that flat pen actually gets MORE powerful the lower your opponents' MR is because of how MR stacks. With reds and sorc shoes you're dealing almost true damage to anyone who didn't get MR runes or items.[/quote]

[quote=ArcCain][quote=Luther3000] Ability power per level quints don't outscale flat until level 13, and AP reds and yellows suck. You get 9 AP from AP/lvl reds and yellows at level 18 and one point of Mpen does a lot more than one point of AP. I'll take my 8.55 Mpen all game and 175 health at level 18 over 18 AP at level 18 any day. It's the same reason you don't just take AD/ArP/AS in every rune when you play an AD carry. [/quote] Don´t know much about that, right now I am playing Veigar, Xerath, Viktor. I am planing on getting Ahri once my rune page is done. I also got a free Alistar from the youtube subscription but I am not really playing him as much as I don´t have runes for him.[/quote]

[quote=ArcCain][quote=Luther3000] [quote=ArcCain] [quote=Luther3000] Ability power per level quints don't outscale flat until level 13(actually level 12, my mistake), and AP reds and yellows suck. You get 9 AP from AP/lvl reds and yellows at level 18. I'll take my 8.55 Mpen all game and 175 health at level 18 over 18 AP at level 18 any day. [/quote] But the I could just as well grab Sorceress shoes, how common is mass stack magic resist runs now a day´s? [/quote] Sorc shoes = 20 Mpen Mpen reds = 8.55 Mpen =28.55 Mpen All champions starting MR, assuming no runes/masteries = 30 Not to mention that flat pen actually gets MORE powerful the lower your opponents' MR is because of how MR stacks. With reds and sorc shoes you're dealing almost true damage to anyone who didn't get MR runes or items. [/quote] Ahhh, ok. I see. Did you say magic pen per level or flat?[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]No such thing as Mpen per level unfortunately. :P[/quote]

[quote=ArcCain]Then I will keep my Mpen runes.[/quote]