Ashe - Mid-laning

[quote=Searz]Ashe [u]IS[/u] a weak laner. Fact. Not enough farm on a carry? Get [[Avarice Blade]], then go for your normal crit items. All carries but Ezreal, Corki and Sivir NEED crit.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]If you play her as a support-carry, it works pretty well in my experience. You do have to be willing to deal with getting lots of assists though.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Did you just say support and ashe in the same sentence? the fuck...am i still high? @Searz TF, Urgot, Tryn (leave hybrid aloooone! /mockcry) Panthe and Jax don't need crit. And she's not a weak laner...she is pretty good. ofc there are better ones, but she is not bad.[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=Nighthawk] Did you just say support and ashe in the same sentence? the fuck...am i still high? @Searz TF [b](Attack speed on-hit)[/b] , Urgot [b](true, but I'm sure Searz of all people knows this)[/b], Tryn [b]([[infinity edge]]?)[/b] (leave hybrid aloooone! /mockcry) Panthe [b](I think he means ranged carries)[/b] and Jax [b](hybrid)[/b] don't need crit. And she's not a weak laner...she is pretty good. ofc there are better ones, but she is not bad. [/quote][/quote]

[quote=Searz]The champions you mentioned are not ranged carries.. (Tryndamere NEEDS crit tho) Well, technically Urgot is one, but he's more of a physical caster. She's a little weak. But like PFP said; it's very hard to push her out of a lane if played correctly. Stop saying that she's "pretty good" --.--[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]I didn't say carries weren't godly with crit items...but Tryn doesn't need them. TF can go AD too, and so can Jax. But if you mean AD carries then my whole post is invalidated. Also...do you really jungle with Shen? I can't seem to jungle with Shen well at all. Edit: Y U P4ST B4 ME SEARZ? Edit2: And by me saying Tryn doesn't need them, I mean that can also go AD or Hybrid or AP or Crit and still carry.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]I should have said back-up carry, not support/carry lol... Shen question: Who are you asking?[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]^ who is a better ranged AD carry then Ashe in a ranked game with good teammates? Just Saiyan. [img]http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/images/a/ab/Super_Saiyan_Goten.jpg[/img][/quote]

[quote=Trojan995]Ashe is the #1 carry IF supported well. AoE damage, AoE CC, incredible initiation, such reliable and consistent CC, did I mention she has CC?[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]Does Ashe's Frost Shot/Frozen Mallet apply to Tiamat? I'm such a wicked theory crafter.[/quote]