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November 18, 2012 3:55pm
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by LaCorpse » November 18, 2012 3:55pm | Report
So, I'm collecting information on mid match ups for my Ahri guide.
I know the ones that I have issues with, Kassadin, LeBlanc..

I'm making a master list though, so I can explain midding against as many possibilities as possible.

Now, here is the question..

Should I add in champions that don't fit the meta currently? Like, I used to see Caitlyn and Ashe mid lane and now days I don't. Today, you almost always see an AP in mid, I don't want to seem like an unreliable source if I add in ADs as well.

Should I add everyone I've seen go mid? like Diana and that new Zed guy?

So far this is my current match up list:

Ahri
Akali
Anivia
Annie
Brand
Cassiopeia
Diana
Elise
Evelynn
Fiddlesticks
Fizz
Galio
Gragas
Heimerdinger
Karthus
Kassadin
Katarina
Kennen
LeBlanc
Lux
Morgana
Nidalee
Orianna
Ryze
Syndra
Talon
Teemo
Twisted Fate
Veigar
Viktor
Vladimir
Ziggs
Zyra
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by IceCreamy » November 18, 2012 4:13pm | Report
I've seen Zed and Pantheon mid as well.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by lifebaka » November 18, 2012 4:19pm | Report
You shouldn't put in everything you've seen go mid, because sometimes people play silly things that really aren't standard enough to worry about. This, usually, is because those silly things aren't as good.

It might be worth adding Kog'Maw, who is still played mid occasionally; Malzahar, who can't really play any other lane; Mordekaiser, because he really can't play any other lane; Pantheon, because Mantheon mid is actually pretty good; and Swain. There are also some lesser-played APs such as Tristana and Xerath that you could add if you're so inclined. Zed might be a legit addition, as well, but it's probably better to wait a few weeks and see where he stands first.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Pheyniex » November 18, 2012 4:20pm | Report
haven't seen you around in quite a while, but i guess i may be going blind.

i think you should write about what you feel comfortable with (have enough info/knowledge about it), but i dont think there is much usefull information regarding specific adc's. indeed, it's out of meta and if you can't deal with it as an ap, there is something wrong with you, i guess.
however, i'm not sure if you should fit gp and pantheon there.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by LaCorpse » November 18, 2012 4:24pm | Report
lifebaka wrote:

You shouldn't put in everything you've seen go mid, because sometimes people play silly things that really aren't standard enough to worry about. This, usually, is because those silly things aren't as good.

It might be worth adding Kog'Maw, who is still played mid occasionally; Malzahar, who can't really play any other lane; Mordekaiser, because he really can't play any other lane; Pantheon, because Mantheon mid is actually pretty good; and Swain. There are also some lesser-played APs such as Tristana and Xerath that you could add if you're so inclined. Zed might be a legit addition, as well, but it's probably better to wait a few weeks and see where he stands first.


I've seen Caitlyn and Ashe in mid vrs. me before too. I guess I'm confused on if I should or shouldnt put them in since they are currently bot champs now. Eventually it could change though right?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Luther3000 » November 18, 2012 4:47pm | Report
No offence, but I think if you can't beat a Caitlyn or Ashe (particularly Ashe) with Ahri something is going pretty wrong.

AP carries are the natural counter to AD carries, especially when they have burst, hard CC and three gapclosers. That's one of the reasons ADs don't go mid anymore.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by LaCorpse » November 18, 2012 5:43pm | Report
I never said I had issues beating them, I truly don't. -_-

You completely dodged the question.

The question was not how to counter them..
it was if I should add them to match ups (because I've seen them mid a couple times). You know, like tips and stuff on how to beat them for new players?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Luther3000 » November 18, 2012 6:10pm | Report
It's probably better just to note that ADs rarely go mid and what to do if one does instead of writing match ups for each individual AD.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by LaCorpse » November 18, 2012 6:20pm | Report
That's what I was looking for.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Lugignaf » November 18, 2012 6:25pm | Report
You're totally missing Soraka midlane.
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