The deal on Nautilus

[quote=Temzilla]The only problem with AP Naut is that he has no actual tanky stats, he would just be a bad version of Fizz.[/quote]

[quote=BarbJ]Somehow, I feel like you could him as Irelia, attack Speed and rely on one of your abilities (Irelia True damage, Nautilus Shield). Tanky Mage also sounds fun, since the AP will make him deal more damage (E and R in a teamfight hurt). Get this guy a Rylai's, Will, Rod of Ages, Abyssal Scepter, D-Cap. Could do a Frozen Heart if you needed armor (Cho'Gath, Ryze (don't know why, but Tank Mage just makes me think Ryze)). Also think you could be building him like Jarvan. Since he's got a lot of CC like Jarvan does (Flag + Dragon Strike = Dredge Line, Golden Aegis = Riptide, Ults are about equal, Shield Damage = Jarvan Passive), you could be doing Trinity Force, Randuin's, Atma's. Could probably do really well in top until people learn to counter him better.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=BarbJ] Somehow, I feel like you could him as Irelia, attack Speed and rely on one of your abilities (Irelia True damage, Nautilus Shield). Tanky Mage also sounds fun, since the AP will make him deal more damage (E and R in a teamfight hurt). Get this guy a Rylai's, Will, Rod of Ages, Abyssal Scepter, D-Cap. Could do a Frozen Heart if you needed armor (Cho'Gath, Ryze (don't know why, but Tank Mage just makes me think Ryze)). Also think you could be building him like Jarvan. Since he's got a lot of CC like Jarvan does (Flag + Dragon Strike = Dredge Line, Golden Aegis = Riptide, Ults are about equal, Shield Damage = Jarvan Passive), you could be doing Trinity Force, Randuin's, Atma's. Could probably do really well in top until people learn to counter him better. [/quote] And then you realize that W has an 18 second cooldown.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]and the damage on his w is a dot so its not like building attack speed will help with that. his passive also has a 12 second cd on the same target, so attack speed won't affect that either.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]Normally AS should increase it, since the first DoT proc will go off instantly, but that's not an issue concerning it being viable or not. Also your passive makes you wanna switch targets anyway.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=caucheka] his q is .75 ratio his w is .4 ratio his e is .5 ratio his ult has 2 ratios, .4 for the pass through damage and .8 for the damage when it hits the enemy you targetted. [/quote] Mother of God. You can get only RoA and then go full tank that you can pwn anyone I'd build him like Cho'Gath: tanky-AP. RoA, FoN, Randuins, Abyssal, mercs or tabi[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]^ Like bad Cho Gaths :)[/quote]

[quote=CasterMaster]Destroyed by [[yorick]] too easily apparently[/quote]

[quote=ConMasterFlash]RoA is much better on Nautilus than Cho.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=ConMasterFlash] RoA is much better on Nautilus than Cho. [/quote] That's a relief. It's awful on Cho >:P[/quote]