Official Mobafire PC thread

[quote=Vynertje]Personally I really love the 390x's place in the current market because it sits at the sweet spot for 1440p gaming without the price tag of the 980. But yeah, you can replace the 390x with a 970 or 980 depending on the price point. 970 will probably get you high settings at 1440p, 980 will get you maxed out. If you really want to step back in price, consider a 1080p system with a 970 and less expensive monitor, swap out the mechanical keyboard, high end PSU and high-end cpu cooling for cheaper alternatives and you're at least 200 quid cheaper.[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu]Isn't Windows 10 still garbage[/quote]

[quote=Latest Legend]The first system is rather overkill in my opinion. Currently, 1440p monitors are pricey and I don't feel like it's a great improvement over 1080p for gamers, especially taking into account that the monitors aren't really impressive on input lag etc. (last time I checked at least) If I were you I'd just aim for good/great quality on 1080p and stick with that. You could also consider getting a monitor with high refresh rate, low input lag and whatnot, some people say it really makes a difference. [quote=Joxuu]Isn't Windows 10 still garbage[/quote]Not if you're gaming, you need it for the newest DirectX. EDIT: To elaborate, it's better under the hood in general so if its only function is to run your game, W10 beats the rest I'm sure. It's considered crap for different reasons.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]I'd be fine with just sticking with 1080p tbh, but I'd definitely like to keep the mechanical keyboard. Do you have any particular recommendations for cheaper alternatives for a monitor, PSU and CPU cooling for a good 1080p system?[/quote]

[quote=TheRedPenguin]Also choosing monitor. If you just want nice color and not give much shit about refresh rate or reaction time go ahead and buy a monitor with an IPS panel. If you really do care about refresh rate and reaction time for gaming, go ahead and buy one with a min. 5ms reaction time(go for 1-2ms if you can). For refresh rate, go ahead and buy a 144hz monitor(or 120hz but they are usually the same price). These monitors can get pretty damn pricey. Just make sure the game you are running can at least run more than 150 fps. Also make sure your graphics card can support 144hz and don't forget to set it up in the screen settings in windows or in the graphics card settings itself. For mech keyboard it's pretty much preference. Just get one. Also liquid cooling is stupid(unnecessary). Unless you have like a mega super duper computer.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]IMO its a waste to go with 1080p currently, 300€ for a nice 1440p IPS monitor isn't that much, especially on a 1k+ gaming PC. Anyway, here you have a cheaper alternative. Things I changed are: Changed CPU to a non-unlocked version and changed motherboard chipset to a non-overclocking one. Changed the power supply to a cheaper version with less wattage, changed the GPU to the ASUS 970 and finally, changed the CPU cooler to an entry-level variant. I did not include a monitor as I'll leave that for you to decide. [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/DfxFQ7]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/DfxFQ7/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] [b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i56600]Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] (£155.00 @ Amazon UK) [b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2]Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler[/url] (£24.89 @ Aria PC) [b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-h170progaming]Asus H170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] (£107.29 @ More Computers) [b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2a2666c16]Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory[/url] (£77.99 @ Ebuyer) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] (£55.71 @ Amazon UK) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex]Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (£39.08 @ Amazon UK) [b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-strixgtx970dc2oc4gd5]Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB STRIX Video Card[/url] (£272.65 @ Amazon UK) [b]Case:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-case-phes614pbk]Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case[/url] (£80.76 @ Amazon UK) [b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cs450m]Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] (£51.99 @ Amazon UK) [b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-kw900140]Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)[/url] [b]Keyboard:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-keyboard-ch9000088na]Corsair STRAFE Wired Gaming Keyboard[/url] (£99.78 @ Amazon UK) [b]Total:[/b] £965.14 [i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i] [i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-09 19:06 GMT+0000[/i][/quote]

[quote=mastrer1000]I changed vynertje's part list around a bit: -212 evo as the new cooler -970 instead of 390x -replaced the psu by some 80+ bronze 500w psu -replaced the monitor. It is only 23'' and has a 5ms response time, but it has an ips panel and is cheap. [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/zCZx4D]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/zCZx4D/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url] [b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i56600k]Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] (£199.99 @ Dabs) [b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2]Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler[/url] (£24.89 @ Aria PC) [b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z170agamingm5]MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] (£132.99 @ Ebuyer) [b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2a2666c16]Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory[/url] (£77.99 @ Ebuyer) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] (£55.71 @ Amazon UK) [b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex]Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (£39.08 @ Amazon UK) [b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp42974kr]EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card[/url] (£259.99 @ Amazon UK) [b]Case:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-case-phes614pbk]Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case[/url] (£80.76 @ Amazon UK) [b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr]EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] (£41.76 @ CCL Computers) [b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-kw900140]Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)[/url] [b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vc239h]Asus VC239H 60Hz 23.0" Monitor[/url] (£115.00 @ Aria PC) [b]Keyboard:[/b] [url=http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-keyboard-ch9000088na]Corsair STRAFE Wired Gaming Keyboard[/url] (£99.78 @ Amazon UK) [b]Total:[/b] £1127.94 [i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i] [i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-09 19:04 GMT+0000[/i][/quote]

[quote=TheRedPenguin]I heard using an IPS panel is orgasmic and undescribable. I never used one but my friends are still making fun of me for not having one sicne I opted for the 1ms screen instead. But ye, IPS panels have been getting cheaper lately.[/quote]

[quote=Searz][quote=Vynertje]I still can't understand why people recommend those things. Yeah the cooling performance is a bit better than air, but no water cooler can run as quiet as a solid and cheaper air cooler.[/quote] Exactly. Spot on. Water coolers are pretty stupid. [quote=Joxuu]Isn't Windows 10 still garbage[/quote] If you care about privacy: YUP, STAY THE FUCK AWAY. Otherwise: eh, it's fine-ish. Fixes a lot of the idiotic stuff from W8, but not everything. They also introduce some new idiotic stuff. For example: any and all updates are FORCED on you. You have the option to delay for up to a month before they just install updates without your consent. [quote=TheRedPenguin]I heard using an IPS panel is orgasmic and undescribable. I never used one but my friends are still making fun of me for not having one sicne I opted for the 1ms screen instead.[/quote] They're exaggerating, but it is nice. And vital if you're working on image or video editing/production. Because you can't rely on the colors of a TN-panel being correct, while you can rely on the colors of an IPS-panel. Also, the 1MS listed in many spec sheets is bullshit. Look at actual tests. Just because the panel can refresh as quick as 1MS in some specific scenario doesn't mean that they take all of the delays into account. Actual delay is usually around 10MS for quick screens, my IPS display is at 12MS total delay, which is quicker than some 1MS screens and it has a 8MS in the spec sheet..[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]@Searz: Actually there are reasons not to pick the Define R5. It's a great silent case, but if you're not 100% interested in a silent case there are better options. The Enthoo Pro has pretty much the same features as the Define R5, but I think has an easier build process, amazing cable management options and has a PWM fan hub, which IMO is the best feature I've seen in cases so far. [quote=TheRedPenguin]I heard using an IPS panel is orgasmic and undescribable. I never used one but my friends are still making fun of me for not having one sicne I opted for the 1ms screen instead. But ye, IPS panels have been getting cheaper lately.[/quote] My Dell U2515H is great, but I wouldn't say the IPS panel is a must have based on my experience. Colours look great and viewing angles are very good as well, but not all of that is useful for gaming.[/quote]