I fiddled with Maokai in the jungle, It felt strong but I also kind of stomped the game hard enough to rush rod of ages, I'll keep trying it.
As for Jhin mid, anything melee and he's pretty safe as long as they dont get ahead, but mid jhin is really kinda ****ty imho.
Having played as, and against Jhin mid, He gets outpoked by a lot of mages, bursted pretty hard by stuff like annie/lux, Easily zoned, and even against melee matchups like yas/zed, can be poked out/all ined early to kill him before he can do much. He's not a very strong mid laner.
As for Jhin mid, anything melee and he's pretty safe as long as they dont get ahead, but mid jhin is really kinda ****ty imho.
Having played as, and against Jhin mid, He gets outpoked by a lot of mages, bursted pretty hard by stuff like annie/lux, Easily zoned, and even against melee matchups like yas/zed, can be poked out/all ined early to kill him before he can do much. He's not a very strong mid laner.
Ban out GoodPlays GG
What's up with Ekko tank top? I've seen him being picked a lot and also saw this: https://youtu.be/CKPJ-H63YOw?t=26m41s (Ssumday played it well but that damage isn't natural on a tank). Also, after 6.7, Poppy's probably Tier 2 now (not sure because her kit is still strong af).
ekko top is literal cancer
azir mid is also literal cancer
meta pls
also vel koz and karma are probably t2~1 alongside azir with the zoning mid lane meta.
vel is a soft counter to azir with the ability to poke and not be touched by azir (as much) in fights.
karma q's are great zoning tools and utility makes her a pseudo lulu with zone. TF's always gucci. Quinn isn't as good anymore.
Liss and ryze are probably t1 too
ryze permaban in LCK
azir mid is also literal cancer
meta pls
also vel koz and karma are probably t2~1 alongside azir with the zoning mid lane meta.
vel is a soft counter to azir with the ability to poke and not be touched by azir (as much) in fights.
karma q's are great zoning tools and utility makes her a pseudo lulu with zone. TF's always gucci. Quinn isn't as good anymore.
Liss and ryze are probably t1 too
ryze permaban in LCK
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