Vynertje's Support AMA and advice thread

[quote=Vynertje][quote=OTGBionicArm]Wouldnt the things that make Sion strong in lane arguably make him annoying as a support?[/quote] What do you mean?[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0][quote=OTGBionicArm]Wouldnt the things that make Sion strong in lane arguably make him annoying as a support?[/quote] He has a win rate above 53%, he's supposed to be a bit more potent than just annoying. And the only thing that makes him strong against ranged top laners is his spammable E which has good base damage, because he's prone to being kited, and CCed.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0][quote=OTGBionicArm]Wouldnt the things that make Sion strong in lane arguably make him annoying as a support?[/quote] He has a win rate above 53%, he's supposed to be a bit more potent than just annoying. And the only thing that makes him strong against ranged top laners is his spammable E which has good base damage, because he's prone to being kited, and CCed.[/quote] Win rates aren't an accurate means of judging a champion's power. It is only one of many indicators that is influenced by many things itself.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]I mean like, Sion was widely regarded for his annoying bullying via his E. That doesn't translate well to the support role?[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]I think people switched to Q max on Sion after E got nerfed and Q got buffed. Maybe you max E on support [[sion]], but his E isn't as strong as it was after his rework.[/quote]

[quote=Re4XN]As a Top Lane main, I switched to maxing Q on Sion (except when against someone with range). The mana you spend on casting E to poke your opponent is hardly worth it, especially with the new mastery system. I remember asking Vyn about Sion support a while back and I maxed E for the obvious poke/slow. After the nerf, the mana cost became a bit high... I mean, I don't think he's necessarily bad, but he's got problems.[/quote]

[quote=AndRay]Hey guys, what should I do if my ADC and I lose the lane on a game? Another question: which supports have the strongest laning phase?[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=AndRay]Hey guys, what should I do if my ADC and I lose the lane on a game? Another question: which supports have the strongest laning phase?[/quote] This is a really broad question and difficult to answer because there are so many variables. I can therefore only give a general answer: Try to minimise casualties, in other words make sure the enemy's advantage cannot snowball to other lanes. Ward up defensively so you can spot their roams and try to be able to mirror their roams so you can give backup to the other lanes. If they take your tower and continue to overextend, you can also ask for ganks but be careful not to get 3v3'd if their jungler is around as well.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Enjoy a quick support tier list: Tier 1: Karma, Bard, Nami, Braum Tier 2: Zyra, Alistar, Soraka, Sona, Janna, Thresh Tier 3: Taric, Lulu, Leona, Blitzcrank Tier 4: Zilean, Annie, pretty much all 'unconventional' supports Not sure: Tahm Kench Tier 1: Pretty much always good picks with very little poor matchups and other weaknesses in the current meta Tier 2: Other good champions but with certain weaknesses or niches in order for them to work as well as tier-1 champs Tier 3: Niche champs, champions that are generally poor right now due to inherent weaknesses but can work within a niche Tier 4: Mostly champs that are theoretically considered supports but generally shouldn't be played that role, unless absolutely mastered.[/quote]

[quote=I want to be a Blitzball]Would Thresh be tier 2?[/quote]