Vayne: Max Condemn First. Why?

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]Alright, so I am starting to main Vayne, in ranked specifically... and I've been taking a look at both Chaox's and Westrice's guides for her on solomid... and they both max Condemn first. Why is this? Is it because of the crazy early game damage if you knock them on terrain?[/quote]

[quote=The Angry Cookie]I would say yes, and ecspecially if you have a soraka who can feed you power the power hit doesnt hurt so much.. Also with the current meta of support/carry being on bot that gives more terrain to knock them into making it more viable.. So I would say yes give it a shot in a couple normals and decide on the viability based on your experience..[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]Well I mean I've done it in ranked before...just wondering what makes it better than maxing [[Tumble]] first. Is it also because early game you won't have enough AD for [[Tumble]] to add much more damage?[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong]405 dmg in one skill if you knock them against terrain along with a 1.5 second stun. Pretty sure that's enough time for any Vayne lvl 9 to kill someone.[/quote]

[quote=The Angry Cookie]yeah I can see that being a good reason.. Im too tired to take out a calculator and crunch the numbers.. But i did some rough math... Lets say your level 5.. Tumble at level 3 with somewhere around 70 AD depending on runes.. You are going to be doing roughly a max of 114 damage per tumble.. Compared to condemn which DOES take more mana.. But if you can manage to get over mana probs it DOES do around 350 damage not including any auto attacks you get in during the stun with only 175ish without the stun.. It provides more damage burst allowing for easier ganks.. So in my opinion maxing condemn first and tumble second would be most wise if you can get clutch on getting the terrain collision..[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]Btw guys, updated her abilities, the math you guys did might be wrong, since before, the abilities were pre-nerf xD[/quote]

[quote=The Angry Cookie]Wait the abilities on moba are pre nerf?.. What was nerfed lol Ive been on vacation for a couple weeks.[/quote]

[quote=theBMB]I actually prefer maxing silver bolts first, the true damage is ridiculous. I started out maxing tumble, but I figured that the only reason you would max tumble is to lower its cooldown, but that's not really that necessary if you're just using it to harass early game. It's also not necessary to improve its escape capabilities since cooldown on tumble doesn't start until you fire the tumble shot, which generally isn't a good idea if you're trying to run away.[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong][quote=theBMB] I actually prefer maxing silver bolts first .......... generally isn't a good idea [/quote] :)[/quote]

[quote=theBMB]reason please? a smiley face is hardly a compelling argument[/quote]