Sion!

[quote=DuffTime]DUH, I HAVE HAD THE AD OFFTANK SION GUIDE OUT FOR AGES. LOL, FREE PAGE OR MR PER LEVEL BLUES? I THINK I'LL ADD MY OWN ON TOP, THANKS. HP STEROID? AD STEROID? AS STEROID? LIFE STEAL STEROID? GG.[/quote]

[quote=mastajdog]With nasus, you can literally 1-shot everybody ever 2.4 seconds if you get some cdr. the problem with sion is that his ult can product over a 1000 aoe heal for his allies and a 2000 per second heal for himself. exicutioner's calling shuts down an AD based sion, but AP sion doesn't care. he just can't get a triple kill in 2 seconds. but yes, you let sion farm, it's gg. i'm hoping you got an [[atama's impaler]] and a [[warmog's armor]]. that's gg. and yes, the grevious wound hurts his sustain, but [[thornmail]] or [[frozen heart]] [[randuim's omen]] counters him from the damage aspect.[/quote]

[quote=ExamplePrime]Nasus scales much better than Sion But we once got 5v1ed by a fed Sion. He critted and healed for 1105 hp 0_o, he was still healing for 250 hp once ignited. He just got so fed I don't even know how. Lack of CC on our side. But back to Nasus, that guy is insane. I mean HOW do you shut him down? If you don't shut him down and win within 40 minutes you lose because he just becomes an unstoppable God.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]Deny is early, otherwise you´ll have a tank that 3 shots everything except tanks using his Q. Veigar on the other hand can be easily done in by using silence/stun or simple burst.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Enough about the comparisons between Nasus scaling and Sion scaling. Nasus does not scale BETTER than Sion, he scales DIFFERENTLY. The mistake you players who think Nasus scales BETTER than Sion are making, is not building enough RESISTANCES on Sion to TAKE ADVANTAGE of his HP steroid. If you're looking for a really good, effective way to Build Sion that actually uses EVERY part of his kit to it's maximum potential, I have one listed under "Build requests" Sion has a nice shield to allow him to farm under harass as well guys, let's not forget about all the tools in our toolbox. Nasus doesn't have that, so I feel that farming at the earlier levels is a lot easier with Sion than it is with Nasus. Meaning you can get going on that passive even quicker. Once you get a resistance item like a chain mail to counter your lane opponent, and you have ultimate, it's over. There's almost nothing that can remove you from the lane.[/quote]

[quote=ExamplePrime]Sion gains healh making him harder to kill but can technically only use "once" as it were Nasus gains more damage which he can use whenever its off CD Sion stays difficult to kill but Nasus can use a full tank build making him VERY difficult to kill whilst being coming stronger and stronger the longer the game continues. But in the end the reason Nasus is better is because its MUCH harder to kite away from him. Sion has a 1.5 stun which is reduced by Tenacity, whilst Nasus can slow you down for a longer period of time meaning he can Continue to stay on top of you.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]1on1 youre right. You can outrun Sion more easily. But comparing their scaling (if possible) theyre pretty even: Nasus: Great dmg even while going fulltank. Sion: Going offtank without wasting too many item slots and doing great dmg while healing himself and everything around him.[/quote]

[quote=Acid Reigns]I still stand by the fact that sion scales way better than nasus. No he cannot 1 shot everything with his Q, even if fed, and even if he doesn't build full tank, so I dunno what you are talking about The normal amount of bonus damage you get on nasus is around 300 yes? Because I easily had 800 bonus health from sion. Now would you rather have 300 damage on one skill, or 800 health? Also, you have to consider the fact that while Nasus needs to last hit with Q, Sion simply has to kill them. You can use Nasus' Q over and over, but not Sions health? Really? You can't reuse health when you have over 100% lifesteal? I did it pretty easily O.o So far, the only thing nasus has over sion is his chase ability, but to be honest, when you're that tough, it doesn't matter at all. I could easily just follow them to their base, and stand in the turret fire with 2-3 champs attacking me, kill the tower, and then force them to run away more. What good is being able to get away, if that's all you can do? Also there are going to be others on your team who can chase... @Duff, you seem to understand what I'm saying. What build do you use? Im to lazy to check I did Mercs Treads > Triforce > Atmas > Infinity Edge > Bloodthirster > Wits End I had high stats all across the board, but I've been thinking there are much scarier things I could have done. I needed to build wits end for my MR item, because I needed AS, but I couold use bers greaves, and a stronger MR item such as FoN. Think that's a good idea? Also, I imagine a Wriggles Lantern being a very, very, good item on Sion O.o[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Acid Reigns] The normal amount of bonus damage you get on nasus is around 300 yes? [/quote] Higher than that. It gives three per minion killed with Q, so if you're a good last hitter, buy CDR and get as many as possible with Q you can reach 300 damage (IE 100 minions killed with Q) at around...20 minutes or so? I think Skyyart got it up to 500-600 or something stupid high at IEM. That's a lot of damage considering the cooldown is just over two seconds (with 40% CDR, which I believe he had). I don't really like the fact that you're essentially FORCED to farm in lane for at least 20-30 minutes on Nasus though.[/quote]

[quote=CelticChampion]Meh all this sion n nasus talk... I'll stick with my rammus >;D btw which runes do you think are best for him.[/quote]