Ryze: Koreans New build

[quote=utopus]My friend told me that [b]apparently[/b], the Koreans mathematically proved that rushing [[spirit visage]] actually increases his damage output more than a rushed [[archangel's staff]] does, due to the CDR. Apparently, koreans now rush [[tear of the goddess]] -> [[rod of ages]] -> [[spirit visage]] -> [[archangel's staff]] instead of: [[tear of the goddess]] -> [[rod of ages]] -> [[archangel's staff]] (and so on...) What are your guys' thoughts on this? Do you believe it?[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]Well asians also cast spells literally the nano-second it comes up, for us mere mortals [[Archangel's Staff]] may be better.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]^As someone who plays with a lot of Asians, I can confirm that is true. Not for me though, I'm just a cheap imitation Asian, like the products in China.[/quote]

[quote=Kazega]Builds are very situational. That being said this build makes sense on account of the common practice of the AP mid and the increasing popularity of AP tops. I don't play Ryze enough to make an informed decision.[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]Spirit Visage doesn't do damage. Get an Infinity Edge and your damage will soar much higher.[/quote]

[quote=Kuukai85]Increases the effects of spell vamp, life steal, regeneration or else.. XD so: you'll have more sustain, and you'll also have Mres, health and CD. it's quite good to use it, maybe a little less damage but when you ult you regen like Sion, because of the AoE damage :D[/quote]

[quote=Joshified]Interesting. I love the item on him regardless, but I can see how it would help a ton too. Might as well wait until you stack tear before you buy Seraphs anyway.[/quote]

[quote=RaNuD][quote=SkidmarkD] [quote=A Chubby Baby] Spirit Visage doesn't do damage. Get an Infinity Edge and your damage will soar much higher. [/quote] It adds 20% dps to spells. There's a difference between dmg and dps. [/quote] SkidmarkD and A Chubby Baby just confirmed Poe's law. On-topic: As a Spirit Visage fanboi, I love it. I actually did get it quite a few times on Ryze, never ever thought of rushing it, though.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]I thot the standard build now was tear roa arch fheart visage wota / wraith or sthn[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Heart also adds 20% CDR, but costs alot more gold. Why not get something like [[glacial shroud]]>[[spirit visage]]? Add the CDR of his [[overload]] and you got 40%.[/quote]