Garen Build Guide : Garen: 6k HP Tank :: League of Legends Strategy Builds

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getting past 60% armor reduction is sily, as the scaling is horrible. If u like health, 3 warmogs, a fon and an atmas will work better than a lot of builds ive seen... I use merc treads, warwmogd, atmas, sunfire, infinity edge, fon ending up with a 430dmg spin per second, excluding bonus dmg from crit which is not shown under the ability description. A madreds will do absolutely nothing whatsoever because of mag res... 4% x 0.4 x 4000hp = 64 dmg. good luck hitting me 63 times.

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LOL I don’t care if Garen is your most played character, this is a terrible build start to finish.

You start with a Doran’s Shield. *facepalm*
There are too many items in your build. You only have 6 slots. Put the rest in Alternate Items.
Your skill sequence makes no logical sense
GAREN DOESN’T HAVE MANA. Fix your masteries
Very short and poorly written.
Don't justify your build by telling us to try before we downvote. That SCREAMS weakness.

The above comments are pretty much correct. Let me prove it to you mathematically in a 1v1 situation with Ashe (it would be similar with a caster). Assume Ashe hits an average 450 physical damage per auto-attack before armor reduction, with 15 Armor pen in the runes, and 40% from the Last Whisper. Also, take and out of the equation, because between the examples they cancel themselves out.

Your build vs. Ashe:

If you take your first six tier 3 items at lvl 18 (fully stacked warmogs, WHICH YOU WILL NOT HAVE), you have 6083 health. With your armor (112.6), each hit from Ashe hits you in HP for 450*(100/(100+(112.6*(40%)-15)))=346.
This means that in 6083/346 = 18 shots from full health to kill you. Ill even give you 1 extra shot to take into consideration the health-regen from the Warmog’s (this is more than fair), so 19. With stacks you will actually have, the number is closer to 16.

My build (as an example) vs. Ashe

This gives me a total of 3233 health at 18, and total armor of 242.6. This means that Ashe is hitting me for 450*(100/(100+(242.6*(40%)-15))) = 247.
I can take 3233/247 = 13 shots.

Its less, but 6 shot difference is worth gaining the added CC from the FM, comparable damage (because of the thornmail passive), better crit-strike, MUCH BETTER CDR, as well as the Randuin's and Youmuu's actives. Basically a better tank kit overall.

This is all before the Madred's Bloodrazor:

Neglecting the and base magic resistance when comparing the builds, the Bloodrazor passive hits you for 6000*.04 = 240 extra each shot. It hits me for 3233*.04 = ~130.

So lets do this again, with the bloodrazor passive added in (against Ashe):

Your Build:

Cost: 14965g
Damage: 120
Armor Pen = 0
Crit Strike = 18%
CDR: 0
Built in CC? = No
Shots taken: 6083/(346+240) = ~10

My Build:

Cost: 14622g
Damage: 129
Armor Pen = 20
Crit Strike = 15%
CDR = 20%
Built in CC? = yes
2 Actives your build does not have
Shots taken: 3233/(247+130) = ~9

Remember, in this scenario your build has an extra 600hp at least from the Warmog's stacks you realistically will not have. With the actual stacks you have in game, your build will not be able to withstand 10 shots. Its not hard to figure out which is the FAR superior build.

Understand that there is a reason you are sitting in the 20s in rankings. Fix your build or get rid of it, don’t insult us actual Garen players.

References:
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Armor
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/champions/86/garen_the_might_of_demacia

I see what your saying, but this build works for me... I do well with this build. Don't come in here and start telling me I'm insulting Garen. I think Garen is the best character ever. Not to mention almost everyone who has commented talks about Madreds Bloodrazor. If they were to read on they would see that I talk about it.
The reason I put try the build before you vote is because I hate people that look at items and don't read anything about why I chose them, then they go off and vote.
And I'm sorry that I'm not an English Major!

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LOL I don’t care if Garen is your most played character, this is a terrible build start to finish.

You start with a Doran’s Shield. *facepalm*
There are too many items in your build. You only have 6 slots. Put the rest in Alternate Items.
Your skill sequence makes no logical sense
GAREN DOESN’T HAVE MANA. Fix your masteries
Very short and poorly written.
Don't justify your build by telling us to try before we downvote. That SCREAMS weakness.

The above comments are pretty much correct. Let me prove it to you mathematically in a 1v1 situation with Ashe (it would be similar with a caster). Assume Ashe hits an average 450 physical damage per auto-attack before armor reduction, with 15 Armor pen in the runes, and 40% from the Last Whisper. Also, take and out of the equation, because between the examples they cancel themselves out.

Your build vs. Ashe:

If you take your first six tier 3 items at lvl 18 (fully stacked warmogs, WHICH YOU WILL NOT HAVE), you have 6083 health. With your armor (112.6), each hit from Ashe hits you in HP for 450*(100/(100+(112.6*(40%)-15)))=346.
This means that in 6083/346 = 18 shots from full health to kill you. Ill even give you 1 extra shot to take into consideration the health-regen from the Warmog’s (this is more than fair), so 19. With stacks you will actually have, the number is closer to 16.

My build (as an example) vs. Ashe

This gives me a total of 3233 health at 18, and total armor of 242.6. This means that Ashe is hitting me for 450*(100/(100+(242.6*(40%)-15))) = 247.
I can take 3233/247 = 13 shots.

Its less, but 6 shot difference is worth gaining the added CC from the FM, comparable damage (because of the thornmail passive), better crit-strike, MUCH BETTER CDR, as well as the Randuin's and Youmuu's actives. Basically a better tank kit overall.

This is all before the Madred's Bloodrazor:

Neglecting the and base magic resistance when comparing the builds, the Bloodrazor passive hits you for 6000*.04 = 240 extra each shot. It hits me for 3233*.04 = ~130.

So lets do this again, with the bloodrazor passive added in (against Ashe):

Your Build:

Cost: 14965g
Damage: 120
Armor Pen = 0
Crit Strike = 18%
CDR: 0
Built in CC? = No
Shots taken: 6083/(346+240) = ~10

My Build:

Cost: 14622g
Damage: 129
Armor Pen = 20
Crit Strike = 15%
CDR = 20%
Built in CC? = yes
2 Actives your build does not have
Shots taken: 3233/(247+130) = ~9

Remember, in this scenario your build has an extra 600hp at least from the Warmog's stacks you realistically will not have. With the actual stacks you have in game, your build will not be able to withstand 10 shots. Its not hard to figure out which is the FAR superior build.

Understand that there is a reason you are sitting in the 20s in rankings. Fix your build or get rid of it, don’t insult us actual Garen players.

References:
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Armor
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/champions/86/garen_the_might_of_demacia

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Dude... arrf this is so bad...
I understand that u think its cool to have 7k hp, and then ur atma's gets super cost efficent and all... But then comes and u die... so fast...
Also the description is super lame and short... really not informative or helpful at all...

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lol your guide sucks rly hard, bro.
Stacking Warmogs?! GG.
Say Garen can be a tank?! GG.
Say we schould play like this?! GG.
Please stop play like this bro.
This is pathetic.
Start adapt to the enemy team and build tankY, not tank.

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bad. funny troll build though

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you need to rethink the build
one warmogs is more than enough, more Armor and MR is SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than more health.
anyone with a Bloodrazor will instadrop you

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sry this just makes no sense -1

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if you want a good tank garen build go for merc treads,sunfire,warmogs,frozen mallet and FoN with a atmas is a good tank garen build but with still some killing power

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not really viable unless this is a troll build the only champ tht is fun to stack warmogs is chogath

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Tanking garen needs at least a Sunfire to do some extra damage and a Frozen Mallet for CC imo. Bloodrazor counters a warmog's build to hard for this to have a real chance anyway though.

Exhaust For CC (Garen can also Chase) and thats why you read my guide before bringing up the BloodRazor because I go over it.