So u want to main Zilean
go back for tear
Threats to Zilean with this build
|Braum||super easy laning vs braum, dont get caught by his q, double bomb him when he protects the adc to stun both. zilean outscales braum hard. braum's shiled collects zileans bombs even if he misses them and will stun him and evryone behind him.!|
the way is always the same
The ways is always the same means that the way to build zilean has been the same since the start and it hasnt changed even with zileans recent rework. Actulally, he is more op then before... (if you land all of the skillshots of course)
Zilean is one of the oldest champions in the game (in both ways) .and before,in season 1 to 3, there was no support items. so this is why you need to go ap items and not support items.
ive actually met a zilean top main and he was saying he was better then me.
i looked up his stats.
His KDA is 1.7
Mine is 3.8
Now i dont say this to brag, its for a reason that i have 3.8 KDA. As a support your point is to get as many assists as possible so u get money! therfore, u must speed anyone doing anything regarding a kill to get an assist.
Ive played zilean top and zilean mid many times, but in the end, in the teamfights, you end up being a support even if you are top or mid. AKa getting more assists and therefore more money.
1-always upgrade W second
2-40Cd reduction must be rushed
Therefore, any guide thats upgrades e before w, is a bad guide and u should not consider it at all!!!
ok ,i am putting a chapter here about something that is obvious for me because i play zilean so much, but maybe not obvious to you.
at level 13, when you max w and you have 45% cd reduction, you can: ALT+e, w, Alt+e, w, Alt+e, w, aLt+e.
always W right after E (like: 0.1 sec after-like: RIGHT away!) . and wait for the speed to end to speed again (dont overlap the speeds).
Zilean is super late game. I consider him the second best support, in lategame scaling. If i had to place the supports inorder of scaling i would put
alistar is a really hard champion, but if you are a good alistar, you are able to carry evrygame with him.
Tresh and Blitz are excluded because in late game one hook/grab can be gamechanging...so a vgood tresh can surprise,but lets suppose the other support has same skill level as you, you would beat him as zil.
janna players think they have the best scaling support, but they dont see zileans frequently and they dont know on how he scales... so just play passive, pass early game without dying and outscale that janna!
Zilean is not like other mage supports like zyra, vel, brand, annie...these champions are a bit like a dice roll, you might get a super game, but you might a supe ****ty one where you are useless. Zilean is a super safe pick for the lategame and almost garantees a minimal usefullness even from behind.
patch 6.24 update: the order changed...id say raka is way higher, i am still testing the janna matchups, but so far i beat her...
how to combo
95% of times: alt+e,q,w,q,alt+e to escape
5% of times: slow enemy with e,q,w,q, e(you or him)
heres a few tips:
1- when laning try to bomb a lot at level 3 and 5 because this is wehn the dmg is optimal for the mana usage. Try to regen ur mana in levels 2 and 4 . This dosnt mean not to bomb tho!
2-I think using the ALT key is essential with zilean. when u reach level 13. practice this:
Alt+e,w right away, then alt+ e again (when speed is over...dont double speed youself!!)
and of course alt+R to ult yourself... (iv played so much zil that i have this reflex alt+R so i always have time to react)
3-thinking zilean is strong in the early game is the wrong mindset. You want to Survive until level 6!
4-33 cooldown of ult at level 16 means thats you can use it twice before going back ! try to use this to win.
5-GA note: always try to ult over GA. YOur ult with proc first, and GA will stay!
6- Kayle, Lulu, Kindred, trynd are champs that can **** you up!(am i missing some??) even if u tell them not to use thier ult over yours, they will still do it! therefore, u give them ONE chance. and if they ult, next fight you let them ult first, then you ult them.
7-bomb ignite is a kill. bomb exaust is nothing
8-vayne players get excited when they see a zilean but it is a bad idea, because the early game of both champs is super weak and getting through laning phase is really hard
Zilean is very squishy and u must never forget this. You are not allowed to get caught during laning phase.
Try to bomb the adc. Dont double bomb unless you are level 3 or 5 (cuz ur q is at its strongest- and to keep mana)
If enemy support is a healer, never domble bomb; unless you see an opening for a kill. ( so u would just q- no W)
If enemy s half health i would q-w-q-ignite
When in late game, i usually start with my ult: i keep using e-w-e to speed my adc, but when allies start to be low, i stop bombing and speeding to focus on the ult! when u land the ult, you start bombing around anduse e to speed the dead person or yourself!
bombing efficiently lategame
When i am in late game (past level 13) , i always throw my bombs in pairs.
Now i dont use autocast on zil. To double bomb, i press q, then i click with the mouse then u press Q+W (at same time)2 times and u click for each bomb of course. this dosnt take long to catch.
I liek to use MINIONS to hit champions with the stun. If you can doublebomb a dying creep with an enemy champion nearby, both bombs will detonate and and there will be a stun in the area , evryone taking double bomb damage.
When in late game, i clear waves with my bombs, if you see the enemy walking in a pack, throw 2 bombs on the ground on the creep pathway to stun the creeps and clear a bit. yes that means i farm a bit even if i am support.
Speed or slow?
If there is one enemy and plenty of you. you should slow the only enemy.
If there is one or two of you and plenty of them, you should speed yourself or the ally.
Now there are some champions that zilean counters with his slow so the enemy cant do anything : Nasus , Trynd, Singed. Very important to slow them if they are your enemy.
Carry yourself from gold to plat...to diamond??
I have had really a lot of trouble winnning playing zilean support in silver. Mainly because zilean is a support that does not permit the adc to make many mistakes prior to 6.
And in silver, well, the adcs a really bad, making many mistakes.
If the adc dies, you die, its pretty hard to win. in silver my zilean winrate is 50%.
i got to gold playing karthus mid and ww jungle...once gold, time to play my main(support).
from gold 5 to gold 1 the climb was easy playing any support. (note that i am a very experienced player and i dont make many mistakes). Once gold 1, i realized that at this point, you can only play the champs you REALLY know! i played only zilean support and i did it to plat. now i will continue to see until where i can reach.
Why dont i win with zilean ?
this is for support zil. check next section for mid zil.
a)you die too much early game?- dont fight before level 6. always tell your adc this. dont trust your adc specially if you are silver or bronze or low gold. you dont care about him. all you want is to scale to late game. so you play passive ,and wait for lvl 16.
b) i always throw my bombs perfectly one over the other after lvl 13, even if i miss them.. so if the enemy missplaces and touches the border of them, they will get stunned. importance of maxing w so you only wait for Qs cd.
c)you dont speed enough ppl to get free assists.
d)you dont revive the right target. revive the one carrying... not the vlad who is 0-6, unless he is the only one dying for sure.
e)i always prioritize myself for the ult. if i am in danger i will ult myself idc. no matter what your allies will say. your ult cd is 33 sec dying is 60 seconds...
f)you didnt read my guide and build like i said to.
the essential difference between support and mid
why dont i win when i play mid? i know why. its because when you are mid you absolutely have to land both bombs to succeed with zil. otherwise, you dont deal enough damage. the mid lane is the pillar of the game without a strong scary midlaner you cant win.
i mean yeah, you can win if your team is great or if you have one fed teamate. but if youre the only one with kills and all relies on u, you have to land both bombs all the time.
so, support tosses 2 bombs on top of the other and mid toses 2 bombs on one target. voila
Why eye of equinox?
it dosnt work on zilean autos. true.
it works if you can last hit... aka : get good
and you can use bombs to kill minons too. you definitely dont neeed pots if you go relic shield so u taka a faerie for mana regen and you have all uyou need to survive laning.
the difference between the eye items is 300 health vs 25ap vs regens... i choose 300 health.
zilean and me/build evoulution
I am one of the oldest players in this game, ive been playing since beta, before season 1, and ive been maining support ever since.. except i was teemo support :D!!
I started playing zilean in season 3. It actually was my ARAM phase and i was only buying champions that seemed fun for me / that i woulndt get pissed if i randomed them and zilean was one of them. i was pretty noob back then, i was silver! my ap build that i used for evry ap champ back then was :
ROA, chalice, cooldown boots and deathcap. and my runes were all mpen xcept for armor seals.
SO u can see that i always got 40% cooldown, probably cuz i main support, and thats a suppport thing... As a fine noob i would get cooldown first and not ap.. like i would probably now (for other new champions i would try).
So aram zil was really fun i maxed q, then e, then w. i played lots of zil until i realized that at lvl 18 (bcuz thats when u got w maxed) u could be in prerma speed (alt e, w, alt+e) you could even overlap the speeds and you would still never stop. THIS is what i miss from zilean now.
NOw e is shorter time and is longer cd then w , so u always have like 1 sec between the speeds. so basiacally i learned to max w second, not e.
Now i kept this zilean build and took it to Summoners Rift .
Ok so when i tried my zil build in SR, i realized that the mpen runes are really strong in the early laning ,and that zilean really has a big problem of mana. I knew i could perma speed at lvl 13with 40% cd. so i alwys went for 40% cd. just really had a tough time getting all these items as support before 13! and i would always run oom compared to HA. so i tried different things to fix the mana issue and my zilean build became this:
chalice, tear, cd boots, deathcap.
At some point they changed the mana system in season 4. even if you got chalice you would always run oom on zil. so i changed evrything!
Mpen reds, armor yellows, ap blues and quints
Mpen boots, chalice, tear, morello, deathcap
this was wayyyyyyy too expensive, but by far the best way to build zil. This is what i would build on zil MID now!!
expensive, no early power, cd takes too long ,
so is not a good way for a support.
changed build again
so i replaced chalice by morello in my initail build bcuz its the same mana regen and u get more ap. TEAR, CD BOOTS (15%), MORELLO, DEATHCAP. VOILA!
i mained zilean in season 4: 137-96 (58.8%)
in season 5 they changed the point click of q and it became a skillshot that had to land in the center of the champion. Zil just didnt work for me in season 5.
In the end of season 5 , q now latched to enemy on thier side!! OHOHOHOHOOH ZIl is GOOD AGAIN. e has less mana q cost lest mana e cost less mana. MANA ISSUE GONE!!!
patch 6.8: just before 6.9, i hit my highest point ever in league: i went to gold 1, 98 points. I even got there palying only zilean.
I realized that there was somthing wrong with my zilean build and i fixed it just before the new patch :
the build now is more late game and less early.
i used to take 17 mpen in runes and 9 armor and 5 mr. and used to get 10cd boots.
now, cooldown scaling glyphs give you the 10% cd of boots, so you can buy the mpen boots instead. so now: 23 mpen, 25 ap 9 armor 0 mr.
patch 6.9: chalice would be a good item, but the healing/shield part is useless on zilean.
You must get eye of the watchers absolutely, or you dont have enough mana regen.
This item with the mana provided from tear and morello is enough.
the new zilean build gives 50 extra ap ( and i dont count the deathcap factor) from morello and the mana morello gives.
patch 6.10: theres really a lack of power by tking the ap quints so its way better to go mpen quints. ive actually realized this cuz i lost so many game with ap quints. now new runes got me to plat! and i made it playing zilean only.
zilean build evolution (part 2)
patch 6.16: ever since patch 6.15, ive been getting coin and faerie at start instead of spellthief and pots, i think you get more mana regen that way and good enough health regen and you have to wait 625 gold instead of 750 to get tear. plus you get 11%cd red at level 1,and spellthief item is only 25 ap (who craes!)for all these reasons i go coin now.
ptch 6.23. now i take 2 scaling ap in runes instead of 2 cd per lvl. you get 10 cd at level 14-15 instead of level 12. the diffrence is very slight .
in season 6 i ended Plat II , 154-128 (54%)win
Patch 7.2. eye of equinox now gives 10 cooldown. comparing the eyes, you see that this one is the most op. 25 ap and 100 %manaregen vs 300 health is huge. so eye of equinox instead of eye of the watchers.
Ihave been testing redemption builds for zilean lately and didnt want to post until i confirm i can win with it. so now, the same runes are perfect. the mpen compensate for cd boots.buy eye and redemption gives you a lot of health.so no more morellonomicon. yes you do have a little down spike before you buy the first ap item. but very worth in the end.
i have changed the runes . i take now 2cdperlvl quints instead of 2 mpen quints, so i can buy mpen boots instead of cd boots. so basically, you treade 4 mpen for 15, but you get 10 cd at lvl 18instead of right away. i have also changed the glyphs. i take 6cdperlvl now instead of 7 ( so 10 cd at level 18 instead of 15)and i take 3 mrperlvl glyphs now instead of scaling ap. i take mr now because people punish more in high gold/plat/diamond. but if i was silver i wouldnt take mr.
If you have questions ask me. for me, evrything i wrote there is obvious, but sometimes ppl dont undertand. so jsut ask ,i always keep this guide up to date.