Sona Build Guide by Flammabubble
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cant tell if support or carry. |
Glaceon15 Unremarkable (3) Posts: 11 Joined: 2012-09-10 IGN: Glaceon15 on NA |
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Okay. The ultimate reason why I downvoted you, however, is because of your runes. You never run AP on a support. Never EVER.
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Laggermeister <Scout> Prominent (190) Posts: 1758 Joined: 2012-09-06 |
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Phil15 Notable (23)
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Glaceon15 wrote:
cant tell if support or carry. Support. The reason the other items are there are to boost the power of her ult, as you generally use it to initiate the fight, lowering their health a bunch is really helpful. Downvoting it just for that is kind of a dumb reason, some constructive criticism would've been much more helpful. Laggermeister wrote:
Okay. Mejai's Soulstealer is just a not sure if troll item. I know Sona can rack up assists easily, but why would you buy it on a support? Deathfire Grasp is probably a better item than Morello's Evil Tome to build off of Kage's Lucky Pick. Mejais isn't a troll item, I don't buy it if the game isn't going well, but almost invariably it has been so it's worth getting. The bonus AP ends up stacking up enough that you hurt in teamfights while still being able to support well. And I take Morello's over DFG because I'm not trying to kill people, the morello's gives me a higher cdr, which I want, and also grievous wounds which I can use to counteract other peoples heals which I find much more helpful. Laggermeister wrote:
The ultimate reason why I downvoted you, however, is because of your runes. You never run AP on a support. Never EVER. Greater Quintessence of Potency is a passable rune because of its huge flat AP bonus, but don't EVER think of replacing Greater Seal of Resilience with Greater Seal of Force. Sure they're scaling AP but look at the numbers: 1.8 AP at level 18 each. That's 17 AP at max level. That isn't worth it at all. Firstly, don't knock it before you try it out. Secondly, the reason I listed these runes primarily is because these are the ones I took before I got a support rune page set up, and I actually found them to be better so I decided to list both. I agree that taking that rune page is a little odd but it's the one I was using for the build, so that's why I put it up. I'll look into switching the seal out, you make a good point. If it works, I'll change the runes over. |
Flammabubble Unremarkable (2) Posts: 28 Joined: 2012-07-21 IGN: Flammabubble on NA |
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I think its a nice start it a really nice guide for a beginner Sona player to pick up and learn the basics from. |
sephuji Posts: 0 Joined: 2012-07-26 IGN: Pinprik on NA |
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I don't need to try it to know it doesn't work. Be very wary of using the argument that something works - if a bad build works, it just means that the players you were playing against were bad, and you are then guilty by implication of being at their level.
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Laggermeister <Scout> Prominent (190) Posts: 1758 Joined: 2012-09-06 |
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Laggermeister wrote:
I'm not defending that choice of runes, as I said in the last post, I haven't tried it yet so I don't know whether or not I prefer it. I also said that I don't use greater seal of force myself, I just suggested they might be better than the AP runes I was using. I'll try out the build with the armor runes instead and if I prefer it I'll change it. As for the other part, I never said that it was a build for high level play, it's just a build that I've found to work and I've had good results with so I thought that I would share. I appreciate your point, but as I said I'd prefer someone to try it out and tell me why it doesn't work, rather than just say it doesn't work. Other than the runes, which I'm going to look into, you haven't given me really any other reasons why you think the build is bad, so I'd appreciate any other input you could give. |
Flammabubble Unremarkable (2) Posts: 28 Joined: 2012-07-21 IGN: Flammabubble on NA |
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well the guide in itself isn`t too bad, but i downvoted it because of Mejai's mostly, as a support you should put your carry`s life before yours, meaning you might have to stay behind to let him escape and not get shut down. adding ap runes to the amount of ap in this build also hurts. her heal barely has a 25% ap ratio, it``s absolutely terrible, you``re better off getting Rylai'sYour text to link here...[/url] if you want ap, this gives you a very viable slow on your Q, which might help your team catch fleeing enemies or help you kite champs along with your movespeed buff. ap on sona is generally bad, you`re a support you want auras and not ap. but if you insist on keeping ap runes, try flat ap instead of per level, you need higher early game damage for stronger harrass and better babysitting. in other stuff i like how you build morello`s over dfg as somebody else suggested, as a support having that mini ignite adds much more than the burst from dfg....overall it is a nice guide for a super offensive sona but again if you wanna run ap try getting it early game for better presence and a fatter carry. |
pinoklin Posts: 8 Joined: 2012-10-17 |
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The Mejais is there if the game is going well. I've found that if it is, you have the money spare for a Mejais, and buying it isn't detrimental to your team because you should already have 2 gp5's, boots and a shurelya's. As I said, IF the game is going well, the Mejais gets stacked meaning you do more damage with your ult and your q, and while yes, it only has a 25% scaling, you do still heal for more. I don't have scaling AP runes, if you read the guide I say I take flat AP, but that it may be more beneficial to take scaling. The rylai's isn't a bad plan, but I'm still trying to support the game so it would only be a final item. The mejai's is useful simply because of how cheap it is in comparison, and it scales during the game if it's going well. |
Flammabubble Unremarkable (2) Posts: 28 Joined: 2012-07-21 IGN: Flammabubble on NA |
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