7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=Mooninites][quote=Cooper112]Think Cork is best early game and mid game adc now with changes. His one down side is late game though still Lucian and Tristana are better but if your a good corki you will get such large lead his mid game is insane honestly.[/quote] He has a decent late game. The main this is his ability to siege with his missles. I actually think his early game is very mediocre, he has a huge power spike at lvl 6 and his mid game is very good, but I think he's outclassed by a lot of ADC's early. He's still beat by [[tristana]], [[graves]], [[miss fortune]], [[lucian]], [[caitlyn]], [[draven]], [[varus]], [[quinn]] and [[urgot]]. He seems to only really beat [[Ashe]] and [[kog'maw]] and maybe [[vayne]]/[[ezreal]] probably goes even with or sligtly loses to [[jinx]] and [[Twitch]] Obviously a lot of these aren't meta picks but the point is his early game is very low down the list of ADC's [quote=NorthernRedStar] A player who knows how to abuse Lucian's mechanics to their fullest is miles above any other ADC early game. Corki included. Corki is still bloody fuck!ng annoying with his Trinity Force. Early game pecking order is roughly > Lucian > Caitlyn (early lane mostly) > Corki = Graves (not quite sure if he is above or below Corki) > The rest (petty sure I forgot someone, quite sleepy) [/quote] Corki definitely does not have a better early game than tristana, graves, or miss fortune[/quote]

[quote=Darealone]Interested to see your thoughts on the new [[sion]].[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=Mooninites][quote=Cooper112]Think Cork is best early game and mid game adc now with changes. His one down side is late game though still Lucian and Tristana are better but if your a good corki you will get such large lead his mid game is insane honestly.[/quote] He has a decent late game. The main this is his ability to siege with his missles. I actually think his early game is very mediocre, he has a huge power spike at lvl 6 and his mid game is very good, but I think he's outclassed by a lot of ADC's early. He's still beat by [[tristana]], [[graves]], [[miss fortune]], [[lucian]], [[caitlyn]], [[draven]], [[varus]], [[quinn]] and [[urgot]]. He seems to only really beat [[Ashe]] and [[kog'maw]] and maybe [[vayne]]/[[ezreal]] probably goes even with or sligtly loses to [[jinx]] and [[Twitch]] Obviously a lot of these aren't meta picks but the point is his early game is very low down the list of ADC's [quote=NorthernRedStar] A player who knows how to abuse Lucian's mechanics to their fullest is miles above any other ADC early game. Corki included. Corki is still bloody fuck!ng annoying with his Trinity Force. Early game pecking order is roughly > Lucian > Caitlyn (early lane mostly) > Corki = Graves (not quite sure if he is above or below Corki) > The rest (petty sure I forgot someone, quite sleepy) [/quote] Corki definitely does not have a better early game than tristana, graves, or miss fortune[/quote] Problem with cait i feel is she needs a lead she does not play well from behind. Oh and kha with w nerf it seems to be best to put 2 points into w now and max q and evolve q now then e then w.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][[Caitlyn]] is okay, she isn't great from behind, but she's a solid ADC. I was just pointing out her early game as a specific example. It's not to say caitlyn is better at any other point in the game[/quote]

[quote=NorthernRedStar]Why are people saying Corki has bad/mediocre early game? He has poke, decent all-in, escape/follow up/kite tool even before level 6. And his passive adds a bit of true damage. He can trade no problem early on, but it's more up to supports at this point anyways. He has a minor powerspike at level 6, the [i]big one[/i] (lol) comes with the Trinity Force. Caitlyn can't really 1v1 anyone as the game goes on unless she has poked her opponent down beforehand and/or has a significant lead ([[Infinity Edge]], Shic/PD).[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=NorthernRedStar]Why are people saying Corki has bad/mediocre early game?[/quote] That's what I'm wondering, it should be clear that Corki's early game is well above average.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]Not even sure how corki gets out traded by tristana early game but w/e[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=FalseoGod]Not even sure how corki gets out traded by tristana early game but w/e[/quote] Depends tris e has same base dog as corki Q. So she can auto e and back away and wins trades.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]If an ADC gets CCed and gets hit by corki's [[phosphorous bomb]], there is approximately a 0% chance that the corki lost that trade. Just saying[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=Cooper112][quote=FalseoGod]Not even sure how corki gets out traded by tristana early game but w/e[/quote] base dog[/quote][/quote]