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Alistar Jungle needs a nerf? Discuss

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May 31, 2012 9:38am
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Summert1me » May 31, 2012 9:38am | Report
Hey guys, I just played a game at toplane (Jarvan) and played vs an akali.
I managed to get fb at lvl 1 because she was lagging or sth. like that. At level 3 Alistar came to gank me and it was completely wrecking.

He camped my top lane and i died 3 times to his ganks. 2 of them were under the tower where he just ulted tanked like a million tower hits for akali and kicked my ***.

Imo his tankiness in early levels is fearsome for every lane, you aren't even safe under your tower bc of his deadly combo and tankiness, you think the same way?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by AncientNecro » May 31, 2012 9:42am | Report
I can't say that it's OP, because I simply do not know the character that well, and doubt that I react OR build accordingly when I KNOW there is a Ali jungle out there.

But I do notice that once level three rolls around, I can no longer count on turrets as a safe retreat. Even ****ty Ali's seem to be able to hug MY turret all day long :/

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by PsiGuard » May 31, 2012 9:47am | Report
-He can only tower dive well at 6 and even then, only for a few seconds.

-He is a great ganker with a superb early game. He can easily gank at level 2 without hurting his jungle speed.

-He's not gold reliant, but he also doesn't snowball as well as some other junglers.

-He's team reliant.

Basically you beat Alistar the same way you beat anyone else with strong ganks. If you got ganked at level 2 or 3, ward your lane next time. If he's camping your lane, all the more reason to ward. All you have to do is make him waste his time while the other top laner pushes to your tower. In the meantime, your own jungler should have free reign of mid and bot lanes as well as dragon and Alistar's blue or red (depends which side).

Also keep in mind that if you see him coming, it's pretty much impossible for him to tower dive you. Especially as Jarvan, you can just EQ away while he runs after you, tanking tower hits.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Pølsemanden » May 31, 2012 10:42am | Report
There are 3 god-tier cc junglers out there right nao.

Nautilus
With his grabs and slow and stun and immobilize, he brings cc enough for a whole team. His jungle clear isn't too bad and he seems broken, if not just baseline op. Decent ganker pre-6 godlike ganker post-6
OP


Maokai
I really like this character, because he counters AOE-teams(one of the banes of solo-quee) sooo godly well. He's sooooo damn tanky with his passive and the engages this guy can bring is terrifying, and unmerciful. One of the best gankers pre-6
Situational, but still op.


Alistar
alistar is imo the least broken and least dangerous. His ganks are good, but i don't think they're Maokai tier, you have to burn a flash to get the full potential out of his ganks most of the time, a flash is though almost a 100% kill. He's really tanky post-6 but his pre-6 towerdives end in failure as often as other junglers do.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by zyeboix » June 1, 2012 3:07am | Report
Lol, I haven't ever met a Akali going jungle, maybe he got a good start cuz of that since he might have gotten some improved items. IMO he ain't good at early lvl tanking.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Toshabi » June 1, 2012 3:11am | Report
Lee Sin Dr. Mundo Jarvan IV Udyr



Stop *****ing about Alistar when those 4 are way worse then him.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DuffTime » June 1, 2012 3:20am | Report
Jungle Alistar is better than jungle Udyr in my opinion, but I think Mundo Lee and J4 are also terror.

Nautilus is the absolute worst though. He's ****ed.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Katjoesja » June 1, 2012 3:58am | Report
Was this only one match or have you had this problem before?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by EvilDice » June 1, 2012 3:59am | Report
hes just a pubstomper

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Wintermond » June 1, 2012 4:05am | Report
Alistar is ina good place. He falls off hard late if you don't buy Triforce and stuff, and your team will lack much damage because you ahve two supports.

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