Mordekaiser Rework, welcome to the botlane

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]ITS SPOOKY[/quote]

[quote=Re4XN]So, right now we are talking about Morde ADC, but what about Morde support? Also, can someone explain to me how his W passive works? Don't you get full XP already when you slay minions?[/quote]

[quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=Re4XN]Also, can someone explain to me how his W passive works? Don't you get full XP already when you slay minions?[/quote] Person who last hits it gets full gold, but champions within the vicinity all share the experience given by a minion evenly. So if a Jinx and a Thresh lane were to have a minion die near them, they would each get 50% of the exp. But if Morde and a Thresh lane were to be within range of a minion dying, Morde gets 100% of the exp, and Thresh gets 50% of the exp, essentially causing minions to give out 150% of their normal exp.[/quote]

[quote=Re4XN][quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=Re4XN]Also, can someone explain to me how his W passive works? Don't you get full XP already when you slay minions?[/quote] Person who last hits it gets full gold, but champions within the vicinity all share the experience given by a minion evenly. So if a Jinx and a Thresh lane were to have a minion die near them, they would each get 50% of the exp. But if Morde and a Thresh lane were to be within range of a minion dying, Morde gets 100% of the exp, and Thresh gets 50% of the exp, essentially causing minions to give out 150% of their normal exp.[/quote] So, Morde doesn't need to kill the minion to receive 100% of the XP? Imagine if it was (just for the sake of example) Jinx and Morde bot lane. Jinx kills a minion, gets 100% of the XP from him, does Morde also get 100%?[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Killing minions doesn't (usually) make any difference to the experience you get, everyone within 1600 range splits exp equally. In that situation Jinx gets 50% and Morde gets 50% (the skill description says it only works if he kills it).[/quote]

[quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=Re4XN][quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=Re4XN]Also, can someone explain to me how his W passive works? Don't you get full XP already when you slay minions?[/quote] Person who last hits it gets full gold, but champions within the vicinity all share the experience given by a minion evenly. So if a Jinx and a Thresh lane were to have a minion die near them, they would each get 50% of the exp. But if Morde and a Thresh lane were to be within range of a minion dying, Morde gets 100% of the exp, and Thresh gets 50% of the exp, essentially causing minions to give out 150% of their normal exp.[/quote] So, Morde doesn't need to kill the minion to receive 100% of the XP? Imagine if it was (just for the sake of example) Jinx and Morde bot lane. Jinx kills a minion, gets 100% of the XP from him, does Morde also get 100%?[/quote] [quote=Luther3000]Killing minions doesn't (usually) make any difference to the experience you get, everyone within 1600 range splits exp equally. In that situation Jinx gets 50% and Morde gets 50% (the skill description says it only works if he kills it).[/quote] Sorry, Matt is right. I stuffed up the wording in my original post. Morde only gets 100% of the experience, as opposed to sharing it, on minions he last hits.[/quote]

[quote=Re4XN][quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=Re4XN][quote=HiFromBuddha][quote=Re4XN]Also, can someone explain to me how his W passive works? Don't you get full XP already when you slay minions?[/quote] Person who last hits it gets full gold, but champions within the vicinity all share the experience given by a minion evenly. So if a Jinx and a Thresh lane were to have a minion die near them, they would each get 50% of the exp. But if Morde and a Thresh lane were to be within range of a minion dying, Morde gets 100% of the exp, and Thresh gets 50% of the exp, essentially causing minions to give out 150% of their normal exp.[/quote] So, Morde doesn't need to kill the minion to receive 100% of the XP? Imagine if it was (just for the sake of example) Jinx and Morde bot lane. Jinx kills a minion, gets 100% of the XP from him, does Morde also get 100%?[/quote] [quote=Luther3000]Killing minions doesn't (usually) make any difference to the experience you get, everyone within 1600 range splits exp equally. In that situation Jinx gets 50% and Morde gets 50% (the skill description says it only works if he kills it).[/quote] Sorry, Matt is right. I stuffed up the wording in my original post. Morde only gets 100% of the experience, as opposed to sharing it, on minions he last hits.[/quote] AHHH! Okay, thanks for explaining. I got it now. So, this basically means Morde is better as an ADC, right? After all, having a level advantage is very useful...[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]It's not an ADC. It's a bot lane AP bruiser. But yes, he works better bot now, especially because his W requires an ally to even function.[/quote]

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[quote=MungoGeri]Just spit-balling here, some supports I see could be good are: 1. [[janna]] with [[talisman of ascension]] for extra shield and disengage and some extra speed and slows. 2. Similar for [[nami]] with the extra bonus speed boost from her upgraded passive. The heal would be especially nice. 3. [[tahm kench]] -- Could be a nice combo. For attack, [[tahm kench]] can devour [[mordekaiser]], run toward the enemy (with the speed boost that adds), and spit [[mordekaiser]] out at the enemy. On defense, [[tahm kench]] can devour a [[mordekaiser]] who gets caught by cc and carry him to safety. Also, a [[tahm kench]] ulting with a [[mordekaiser]] could cause havoc for an enemy team. 4. [[volibear]] -- [[volibear]] can charge at an enemy, flip them, and slow them down while taking some hits. Meanwhile, [[mordekaiser]] can W [[volibear]] which will give [[mordekaiser]] a big speed boost toward the caught enemy.[/quote]