My take on Elementz' Graves Tier List

[quote=Restrictnine#5232]Honestly, I think the current meta relies on pubstomping. Tier 1 - Karthus(Tele + Revive), Graves, Akali, Morgana, Talon, Kassadin, Casseopia, Cho'Gath, Nidalee, Tryndamere, Shaco, Lee Sin, Brand, Caitlyn, Kennen, Kog’Maw, , Xerath That is his Tier 1. Pubstompers: Karthus, Akali, Morgana, Talon, Kassadin, Nidalee, Tryndamere, Shaco, Lee Sin, Caitlyn Almost-Pubstompers: Graves, Kog'maw, Cassiopeia Honestly right now I think the harder you stomp on your lane, the more likely you are to rise in elo. That is what Elementz is saying. I personally disagree with this. Because just a few months back, the exact same reasons were why a lot of these champs were poor... ok well maybe not EXACT reasons, but the same strengths are tied to weaknesses. Tryndamere? Shaco? How many good shacos have you seen lately. I've seen one. Me and Evildice duo queue'd the past few days 4 out of 5 of our last games were shacos. ALL of them literally cost us the game. There should be a little side-note to this tier list. *[color=red]CAUTION: If you do not main this champ or have significant experience with them, this tier list is NOT ACCURATE![/color] Christ man, soooo many people follow this tier list, yet the majority of these champs are AT MINIMUM difficult to play. Tryn, Shaco, Kass, Cass, Xerath, Lee Sin, Kog'Maw, Karthus, Nidalee. All hard to play. Thats almost half the fricken Tier 1 right there. Elementz literally said "you dont have to be good at karthus to rise in elo with him. just try not to die in lane and try to farm, then just dive in teamfights, revive tele back in and you will win." No. I promise you. Karthus takes skill. A lot of skill. FUCK Elementz, man. What were you thinking? SOOOO many noobs read that like a god damned religion. This is why so many of my ranked games suck right now. It's like the ELO gods laugh at my anguish. And there is little to nothing I can do about it.[/quote]

[quote=Rozsud3k]I thought that Tier Lists were an opinion and I thought they were ranked on their utility, not their difficulty. I do agree though, that you shouldn't follow a person's opinion like the Holy Bible, because that's just [b]stupid.[/b][/quote]

[quote=Mowen][quote=Restrictnine] Honestly, I think the current meta relies on pubstomping. [/quote] How do you define pubstomping? And yes, Elementz tier list is someone a blessing and a curse upon LoL. ;)[/quote]

[quote=Sacull_Kinslayer]The game is like a wheel... it goes round and round... what is new becomes old and what was old becomes new again. It is a cycle.[/quote]

[quote=Kanohi][quote=Sacull_Kinslayer] The game is like a wheel... it goes round and round... what is new becomes old and what was old becomes new again. It is a cycle. [/quote] The cycle of elo shall continue. Yours will fall and mine will rise. -Nasus[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]heh. anyway tier lists are retarded. also i wouldnt say graves caitlyn or brand are difficult (especially not brand) but yeah the rest of them are.[/quote]

[quote=Beeswarm17][quote=Restrictnine] Tier 1 - Karthus(Tele + Revive) [/quote] What is this, I don't even...[/quote]

[quote=Atarios][quote=Beeswarm17] [quote=Restrictnine] Tier 1 - Karthus(Tele + Revive) [/quote] What is this, I don't even... [/quote] Whats wrong with it? Havent you seen it before?[/quote]

[quote=Beeswarm17]Actually, I've not come across it in a serious game, I don't think. But is it seriously the best thing in the game to Elementz? It is the TOP OF HIS TIER LIST. I don't even begin to understand why. >_>[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Did you see how pro m revive/TP Karthus was? TP/Revive Karth is just really strong. He gets the benefit of his passive both times and, if he dies and a bunch of people manage to escape, he revives and ults. GGPENTAKILL.[/quote]