Possible changes to Phage

[quote=Xaioli][quote=caucheka] [quote=Xaioli] [quote=EvilDice] [quote=Xaioli] [quote=caucheka] [quote=Xaioli] Phage proc can easily win or lose you a game. [/quote] the only rng that could make or break a game was dodge. [/quote] I've seen that slow change a lane plenty of times. Edit: Adding one scenario I saw the other day with a Phage win. Irelia going to trade against enemy laner, blade surge to creep then onto them, Equilibrium Strike slow/stun while autoing with Hiten up, 30% slow procs. Irelia chases enemy laner under turret while autoing and gets away with 2 bars. I'm pretty sure that slow helped Irelia get the kill. There are a lot of other scenarios like that obviously. [/quote] i dont see a problem here... working as intended [/quote] Riot said that they want to remove most RNG factors and Phage is definitely one of those RNG things. So no, not really working as intended to Riot's views. [/quote] please link me where they say most rngs. because they've only mentioned crit (which isnt a problem because you can build against crit) and dodge. [/quote] Just wait for the next big rng thread/discussion when Riot takes part in. Can't find old thread but I swear on my life when dodge was being talked about, RNG as a whole was spoken of and things like Phage, Warden Mail was brought up to subject and possibly on the chopping block but Dodge was a higher priority at the time so thus, fixes were set loose. These things are pretty often so just pay attention lol.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]i'll occasionally browse the dev tracker but i on't go to the lol forums otherwise.[/quote]

[quote=Xaioli]Why not? LoL forums are like the best bro. No 12 year olds complaining about "elo hell" or "feeders". Completely civilized people there bro edit: had to add in more "bro" for the feel of general discussion chat on LoL forums[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi]While we're at it, lets change critical strike! It's way too luck based and it sometimes can make or break an engagement so lets just put that critical chance concept into my pocket and introduce a "Raises your damage by %" system into the game so that everyone is a winner and can be so damn jolly when they don't have to factor in possibilities in an engagement![/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]"Raises your damage by %" You just took my idea which I made 6 months ago! http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/theorycrafting/my-crit-rework-numbers-for-former-items-abilities-etc-10687#comment-411801[/quote]

[quote=The Overmyynd]Eh... You get phage to either build [[frozen mallet]] which IS a guaranteed slow, or you get it to get [[trinity force]] which is just awesome because of all the procs and random abilities. I think this is a glass-half-empty point of view. You could hit them 4 times and not slow them, yes, or you could hit them 4 times and slow them 4 times. And lets face it... you don't STICK with JUST Phage. You get it as an upgradable piece. There are lots of these upgradable pieces, that are kind of OK, that work into amazing items. [[tear of the goddess]] is nice for mana, but it doesn't REALLY shine until you build it into either [[manamune]] or [[archangel's staff]]. Leave it the way it is, you don't get [[phage]] as a game-changer in of itself.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]What? [[Tear of the Goddess]] shines himself already very much on champs, which really need it. It is easier stackable in this form and champions like [[ryze]] or [[karthus]], which use it, upgrade it very late. Especially [[ryze]].[/quote]

[quote=The Overmyynd][[ryze]] is an exception, because he and he alone gains massive damage based on his maximum mana. And you said it yourself... they DO upgrade it, even if they wait awhile to do it. Besides... I DID say it was 'nice', but [[archangel's staff]] is much better >.< [[Phage]] is also 'nice' because of the added health, damage, and chance to slow, but [[frozen mallet]] is much better.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][quote=The Overmyynd] but it doesn't REALLY shine until you build it into either Manamune or Archangel's Staff. [/quote] That was the wrong part of the sentence. It shines already unupgraded.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka][quote=NicknameMy] "Raises your damage by %" [/quote] except toshabi was being sarcastic towards everyone who says that all rngs are terrible. this game isn't bloodline champions.[/quote]