Vynertje's Support AMA and advice thread

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=utopus]If anything, [[tahm kench]] is 2 times more anti-fun compared to soraka. [[janna]] lanes tend to do OK against raka.[/quote]Soraka is like the common cold compared to the Ebola that is the Kench[/quote]

[quote=JakeParkbench]What is your opinion on sometimes just looking to go even in lane. As it is right now I get matched with people that are general capable of farming alright and I feel confident in being able to peel or engage mid to late game. In these cases I'm play Alistar Janna or Tahm, or cases were I have to early pick Thresh or shen into a lane match up that is ass. i mostly just feel tat sometimes people overlook just getting farm and knowing that the game doesn't end at 10 mins, and go way too hard for early kills.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]I think it's fine but it shouldn't mean that you give up all pressure, because in that case you're essentially 'losing' lane: you allow the enemy support to get vision and roam freely. Also, it means that you make yourself more reliant on your team to perform. Either way, it is important to assess what you can and what you can not do in lane and play appropriately, and yes this can mean that you play to go even in gold.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=utopus]If anything, [[tahm kench]] is 2 times more anti-fun compared to soraka. [[janna]] lanes tend to do OK against raka.[/quote]Soraka is like the common cold compared to the Ebola that is the Kench[/quote] True but at least the game is actually being played in a Kench lane. Against/as soraka I may as well go do my laundry during laning phase.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=OTGBionicArm]True but at least the game is actually being played in a Kench lane. Against/as soraka I may as well go do my laundry during laning phase.[/quote][[Tahm Kench]] doesn't play the game any more than [[Soraka]] does, that's the beauty of [[Tahm Kench]].[/quote]

[quote=Zetrick]I believe those who can get them selves to diamond or higher, while only playing support, may be the players with the highest game knowledge. I've wanted to main support, as I think it is a fun role, playing champs like Zilean. But I'm not able to carry with the role, in any way, which is why i don't main it. :P[/quote]

[quote=Malin]Would u say that [[Annie]] is a valid support atm? Haven't played for so long idk anyfiiiiin about dis gaaaaajm[/quote]

[quote=Zetrick]Where does Nami stand? I've been wanting to try her out.[/quote]

[quote=Out Of Pancakes][quote=The_Nameless_Bard][[Tahm Kench]] doesn't play the game any more than [[Soraka]] does, that's the beauty of [[Tahm Kench]].[/quote] You can put pressure and be agressive with the Kench. Not with Raka. [quote=Malin] Would u say that [[annie]] is a valid support atm? Haven't played for so long idk anyfiiiiin about dis gaaaaajm[/quote] I've played her a few times and she seems fine. FQC is really good on her. The only downside is that everyone can get QSS really early now.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=Malin]Would u say that [[Annie]] is a valid support atm? Haven't played for so long idk anyfiiiiin about dis gaaaaajm[/quote] I think she's mediocre but she can still work. She just got so many rounds of nerfs and she really sucks in the tank meta so it makes her a bit iffy, but she can still be a very dominant laner. [quote=Out Of Pancakes][quote=The_Nameless_Bard][[Tahm Kench]] doesn't play the game any more than [[Soraka]] does, that's the beauty of [[Tahm Kench]].[/quote] You can put pressure and be agressive with the Kench. Not with Raka. [/quote] Well yes but in the Raka lane its the ADC that can put pressure and be aggressive. [quote=Zetrick]Where does Nami stand? I've been wanting to try her out.[/quote] She's fine, she works well with both [[thunderlord's decree]] and [[windspeaker's blessing]], and can really dominate a lane. She also works pretty well with FQC. On the downside, her issues (vulnerability to jungle ganks, need to dominate a lane due to poorly scaling utility values) still remain and aren't fixed by the new patches.[/quote]