Vynertje's Support AMA and advice thread

[quote=Vynertje][quote=Insomaniac]^ What do you think is the reason for that ?[/quote] nerfs, she used to have really oppressive base damages and scaling with only liandry's. oh and guys can we stop the soraka discussion here? you can make different a thread and express your hate there, but this is not a "express your soraka hate here" thread ;)[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]My bad Vyn, figured that'd be the case. Actual question though. Can I get an update on what YOU personally feel the tiers are for support, and ADC (If you wanna answer that too)? H4x's list is great but he isn't a bot lane main. ;p[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Considering I haven't played too much competitively over the last couple of days (nor ranked games) I'd say his list might be more accurate than mine, but here goes a shot: Tier 1: Thresh / Tahm Kench / Trundle Tier 2: Brand / Soraka / Alistar / Braum / Nami / Bard / Janna / Leona / Lulu Tier 3: Sona / Taric/ / Zilean / Zyra / Vel'Koz / Blitzcrank / Karma Note: order within tiers is (mostly) randomized[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]...Trundle?[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Yeah he was the most picked/banned support during IEM Cologne if I recall correctly, his [[pillar of filth]] is pretty broken right now (I think one of the pro supports said something like it's a lower cooldown, longer range alistar combo if you place it right on top of somebody) and his ult is great in the current tank-meta. I was in doubt whether to place him t1/t2 but I think he's amongst the best supports right now. Only got to play one game of him yet, but he seems really strong from that game as well.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]Where does morg fall on that list? EDIT: Where does shen fall too[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje][quote=utopus]Where does morg fall on that list? EDIT: Where does shen fall too[/quote] Morg bottom tier-2, shen top tier-2 By the way, for those interested in trundle, here you have two match histories: http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/EUW1/29513678?champion=48[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]time to buy the troll[/quote]

[quote=MungoGeri][quote=Vynertje]Yeah he was the most picked/banned support during IEM Cologne if I recall correctly, his [[pillar of filth]] is pretty broken right now (I think one of the pro supports said something like it's a lower cooldown, longer range alistar combo if you place it right on top of somebody) and his ult is great in the current tank-meta. I was in doubt whether to place him t1/t2 but I think he's amongst the best supports right now. Only got to play one game of him yet, but he seems really strong from that game as well.[/quote] I'm intrigued. Is he a situational pick where the opponent picks a tanky support? Or, is he good against most supports? It seems like he'd be vulnerable to ranged poke and harass.[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu][img=http://i.imgur.com/nFODFdz.png] he is the shit lmao[/quote]