What will be the next sleeper strong champ?

[quote=tehAsian][[karma]] is actually pretty OP I believe.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][[Olaf]], [[Vladimir]], [[Taric]], [[Gragas]], [[Twisted Fate]], [[Wukong]] a [[Fizz]] FOTM would be hell, i'd seriously comtemplate quitting league of legends [quote=tehAsian] [[karma]] is actually pretty OP I believe. [/quote] she's strong 1v1 and early in a solo lane. Beyond that she isn't much. She doesn't have the burst or sustained damage output late game too be a factor. Her support is quite good actually. I'd say she is probably the best late-game support once she gets items. Unfortunately she needs gold for that. She isn't exactly a kill lane type champion. Additionally, she has poor mana regen and mana costs. These scale upwards quite rapidly because she only has 3 abilities she can max rank up. She's quite dependent on her Mantra's which prioritizes CDR over any other stat. She's really hard-pressed to rush as much CDR as she can early on with a mana engine. She has alot more holding her back than she does going for her. She'll probably always be a dark horse champion until they rework her.[/quote]

[quote=NinjaGinge][quote=Phoenix0000ff] Hmm I guess next time I 3 shot someone I should lament on how hard it is. That rework will come though [/quote] so much this^ why no one realize this?[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]The hard part of twitch is getting to a point where you can threeshot people :p[/quote]

[quote=LaronX][quote=Mooninites] [[Olaf]], [[Vladimir]], [[Taric]], [[Gragas]], [[Twisted Fate]], [[Wukong]] a [[Fizz]] FOTM would be hell, i'd seriously comtemplate quitting league of legends [/quote] Let's see [[Olaf]] Yes he is stong. But I would say hidden OP. People know what he can do the recent changes brougt him more into favor the befor but it is not like suddenly everyone will play Olaf as he crushe everything. [[Vladimir]] O.o He is sayed to be one of the strongest late AP champs since the change. He is not hidden people just can't play him as well as they want. [[Taric]] I agree with that. Armor buff, heal and stune are just to strong in lane. Add the Aura ulti and he is a real beast. A bit out shined in the favor by [[Janna]] atm. [[Gragas]] Never sure about this guy. He has incredibel burst but it does not feel like he can solo carry stuff. You might be right witht this but I am not quite sure. [[Twisted Fate]] Hard to play not hiden OP. Most will just incredibly frustrated as an AP TF when you miss the Wild cards and get the blue instead of the gold card. [[WuKong]] Dunno about the monkey he is cool and stuff but he can be shut down in lane quite hard. To the WW thing. Sure he is Op atm but so is Yorick, but both are boring as hell and in low lvl playes he is popular either way.[/quote]

[quote=animorte][quote=LaronX] [[Taric]] I agree with that. Armor buff, heal and stune are just to strong in lane. Add the Aura ulti and he is a real beast. A bit out shined in the favor by [[Janna]] atm. [/quote] Hehe, so true. My Taric can easily get that Twitch to the 3-shot level. Unfortunately people prefer a massive AoE disrupt to a massive damage buff late game, because in reality, positioning means an aweful lot in this game, and Janna is great at annihilating that. Now, if you have other champions on your team that can destroy enemy positioning, use Taric. Dude, that ult.[/quote]

[quote=Klausenheim][[GRagas]], [[Ziggs]], [[Maokai]]. And really, while he was never "sleeper", I think we will be seeing more and more [[Mordekaiser]] in the future. It's gonna be like the old days *shudder*[/quote]

[quote=animorte]Good thing I found somebody that I can play to the level of Morde's damage output and extremely difficulty to kill.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Nighthawk] yo bro. I ain't mad. UMAD? :P Just pointing out that I jungled with Mundo before he was viable haha. [/quote] Not mad, but it's funny that I get called out in threads and such. Nobody wants Duff to be right lol. But yeah a couple people tried to make Mundo a viable jungler pre jungle/mundo rework. Thing is he could jungle well enough but he couldn't jungle and gank. Now he can clear and be healthy enouh to gank, which is what brought him into viability again ^_^ [quote=Mooninites] [[Vladimir]] a [[Fizz]] FOTM would be hell, i'd seriously comtemplate quitting league of legends [/quote] I predict an awakening of both these guys. Fizz because of the new skin, Vlad because Vlad. [quote=LaronX] [[Olaf]] Yes he is stong. But I would say hidden OP. People know what he can do the recent changes brougt him more into favor the befor but it is not like suddenly everyone will play Olaf as he crushe everything. [[Vladimir]] O.o He is sayed to be one of the strongest late AP champs since the change. He is not hidden people just can't play him as well as they want. To the WW thing. Sure he is Op atm but so is Yorick, but both are boring as hell and in low lvl playes he is popular either way. [/quote] Olaf is what I'd call a balanced champion with broken mechanics. This means that when he loses he'll usually lose hard, and when he wins, he'll avalanche. He has counters but he also hard counters a number of champions and has a way to win/contest most lanes. His major issue is that his ultimate is only good if he's fed, and he has no built in gap closers. Big problems for a melee. Vlad is too hard for most people. He requires a good understanding of in and out play and patience in the lane phase to get your WotA. WW is a beast in lane, and Yorick is actually incredibly easy. Just learn Tryndamere, Yorick is free as shit for Tryn.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]I still think he's a shit jungler.[/quote]