What will be the next sleeper strong champ?

[quote=DuffTime]I've always said Urgot was better than people gave him credit for :P[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]Every champ can be the next sleeper OP if someone finds a way to play them on a OP level.[/quote]

[quote=JMastiff][quote=DuffTime] Urgot has a suppress and slows and a damage debuff. I've always built Urgot that way. Pantheon has what, a short stun? [/quote] Your builds were a bit different (when they were up) from what I've seen from M5 Genja's. I'd rate Urgot higher just because of the reasons you gave but that's what comes from strict offline ramble. People will find theoretic reasons after they saw them played.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Yeah OFC they weren't exactly the same builds. I played mostly 3v3's back in those days and my builds were geared towards that style of play.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]Sleeper op's as in ppl not realizing how op they are? WW(i actually got flamed for banning this guy one game), Big daddy, Shyvana(don't know after nerfs) and Corki(don't know if i forgot some). Imo at least.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=DuffTime] Barely. He couldn't jungle and gank, and to top it all off, the jungle has been reworked since and the mobs are different. You people say things without thinking about what you're saying, everything changes constantly in this game. You can't seriously go back to what I said about something that's not even the same anymore, and try to make me look dumb for it. Might as well call me out on Shaco too. I said Shaco was top 10 worst champions in game before the jungle rework. That all changed with the jungle rework, which is part of what makes Mundo a potentially viable pick. [/quote] yo bro. I ain't mad. UMAD? :P Just pointing out that I jungled with Mundo before he was viable haha.[/quote]

[quote=JMastiff]On Topic - I still like Karma top, not sure how she'd go vs tougher tops midgame and still would have to be comped with manaless APmid for best result tho. Still waiting for some Poppy hard comeback.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden][quote=JMastiff] On Topic - I still like Karma top, not sure how she'd go vs tougher tops midgame and still would have to be comped with manaless APmid for best result tho. Still waiting for some Poppy hard comeback. [/quote] I think karma will remain sleeping.. Her strong spells aren't strong enough to make up for the fact she doesn't have an ultimate.(this gives her a strong laning game, but a lackluster team fight ability, cuz team fights are often decided by ultimates.)[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I'm still going to stick with my Tanky-AP Maokai. People just build him for utility instead of tanking and it makes me sad. He's real diverse.[/quote]

[quote=animorte]It really annoys me when I see a bajillion people building champions without something they scale with most. For example, I play most supports with AP. Why? Because EVERYTHING they have scales with it and that helps your allies (while often dealing damage to your enemies). There is still room for 'support' items. And I love Karma. I think she has just as much potential as anybody else. She just does multiple things that literally nobody else can. I also jungled Mundo before patches and such... But if I want to jungle... ...I am going to continue playing Skarner in my unique fashion. :)[/quote]