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[quote=Joxuu]Any predictions for the top legendaries in the GvG patch? Class legendaries were kinda boring and I only find Priest & Warlock ones to be any good.[/quote]

[quote=Meiyjhe][quote=Joxuu]Any predictions for the top legendaries in the GvG patch? Class legendaries were kinda boring and I only find Priest & Warlock ones to be any good.[/quote]I call the following: All legendaries: [url=http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Goblins_vs_Gnomes]Blingtron, Hemet Nesingwary, Mimiron's Head (V07TRON), Gazlowe, Mogor the Ogre, Toshley, Dr Boom, Troggzor the Earthinator, Foe Reaper 4000, Sneed's Old Shredder, Meknigeer Thermaplugg, Malorne (Druid), Gahzrilla (Hunter), Flame Leviathan (Mage), Bolvar Fordragon (Paladin), Voljin (Priest), Trade Prince Gallywix (Rogue), Neptulon (Shaman), Malganis (Warlock) and Iron Juggernaut (Warrior).[/url] My prediction on how awesome the legendaries will be in ranking: 1. Foe Reaper 4000 2. Gahzrilla 3. Troggzor the Earthinator 4. Toshley 5. Sneeds Old Shredder 6. Malorne 7. Voljin 8. Trade Prince Gallywix 9. Mogor the Ogre 10. Bolvar Fordragon 11. Iron Juggernaut 12. Neptulon 13. Dr. Boom 14. Gazlowe 15. Meknigeer Thermaplugg 16. Flame Leviathan 17. Hemet Nesingwary 18. Blingtron Specific musthave: Mech -> Mimirons head Demon -> Malganis [spoiler=reasoning]Foe Reaper: Aww yeah, looks like some good board clear card. No longer can the stupid warlock save himself with a 1/3 voidwalker muhahaha. I think this card is awesome and might even be a musthave. The survivability plus the amount of murder is just too good. Gahzrilla: This one is 6/9 for 7 mana but instead gets it amount of attack doubled each time it takes damage. As the hunter isn't really capable of selfdamaging minions the amount of potential use of the effect might be limited, but for its statline alone it seems fine. Plus if this card gets houndmastered, things get really dangerous real fast. Troggzor the Earthinator: If only one trogg is summoned, this legendary is already worth it. However, then the enemy must use a spell. If the enemy doesn't have that many spells then this card will be just a 6/6 for 7 mana cost. As most people put at least some kind of spells in their decks, I'd say this card seems pretty solid. Toshley: Seems like a solid legendary. Also almost the same as a boulderfist ogre, only then with one attack less and two spare parts extra. As most spare parts seem at least decent, Id say its good. Sneeds Old Shredder: 5/7 for 8 mana is terrible, the deathrattle however is amazing... potentially. There is a chance that you will summon a tiny bloodmage Thalnos or a mighty Ragnaros. It is a risk, but if the legendary that is summoned has at least a statline of a 3 mana cost, then this card should be worth it (which is with most legendaries the case) Malorne: 9/7 for 7 mana is quite decent actually. That plus the deathrattle would technically allow you to draw this card multiple times. Tho I would rather have a 7/9, I think this card has quite some potential. Voljin: A potentially amazing and potentially awful, this card is exactly that. This card could hardcounter for example an ancient of war, but can also be used against a rush deck where everything already has 2 hp or lower. However, unlike Bolvar Fordragon, this card might not always be great, but it will at least give the enemy a slight disadvantage, even if you only switch health with a 3 health minion, making the enemy minion an easy smite target. I think this card is okay as most decks run a few cards with 5hp+, which is what is required to give Voljin a worthy statline. Trade Prince Gallywix: Seems good. Its a boulderfist ogre +1 hp -1 attack PLUS an effect. The fact that you can steal spells is really appreciated. If the enemy is a full spell deck tho, your hand gets possibly swarmed + they get a lot of free mana in the process, allowing them to cast even more spells. So as weird as it may sound, it may actually be terrible against spell decks, whereas it can be quite good against regular decks. I'd say this card is decent. Mogor the Ogre: A reverse boulderfist ogre but then 50% chance of hitting the wrong guy... for all your minions. I think I'd prefer a boulderfist ogre thank you very much. So I don't think this card is very good, no. Bolvar Fordragon: Imagine a world where you hold this card in your hand from turn one, where you sacrificed many silver hand recruits. A world where Bolvar Fordragon will have some insane attack son. The potential danger of this card is amazing. Technically you could get over 10/7 for 5 mana, that is insane. However, the opposite can also happen. Your hand is empty, then you topdeck a Bolvar Fordragon and... can't really do anything with it. This card is a risk. It could win you games, it could also be a massively disappointment. However, if your deck is able to have enough minions on your board at all times, I think this card should be fine. Iron Juggernaut: 6/5 for 6 is not a good statline, the effect however is very scary. 10 extra damage for this amount of mana is crazy. The chances are too small however for this card to be reliable. I'd say this card is decent for any warrior deck as the mine can absolutely destroy the enemy. If the mine doesn't pop up, then you just have a boulderfist ogre with 2 less health. It isn't good, but it could also be a lot worse. Dr Boom: I like the fact that he drops bombs, what I dont like is that the amount of damage by the bombs varies so much and that Dr Boom has 7 attack. The bombs do seem good for boardclear I guess. It has potential, but doesn't seem all that amazing. Neptulon: A murloc card... on a shaman deck. Basically Blizzard is saying: PLEASE PLAY MURLOC ON SHAMAN DECKS. The statline is bad for the same reason as War Golems statline is bad and then there is the overload, but the battlecry seems pretty good. It basically allows you to create an easy bloodlust. Murlocs are very cheap, as you can throw down 4 murlocs in the turn after Neptulon you can overwhelm the enemy quite rapidly. I'd say this card is good when having an OTK bloodlust deck where this card will serve as a back up for when earlier OTK attempts have failed. Gazlowe: This card is a bit weird. 3/6 for a 6 is terrible, although the potential draw is good. Running a lot of 1 cost spells in a deck doesn't seem like a good idea and for some classes barely even possible. I guess it could be used for paladin secret decks... buut those aren't even good in the first place. This card requires multiple 1 cost spells in your hand (at least two) to be worth it imo, otherwise this card is worthless. Meknigeer Thermaplugg: I like this card, but it doesn't look good. The board either needs to be empty or your board must be dominating to make this card worth it. You cannot kill any minion while using this card unless you have a 1 mana cost spell or already a minion on the board. The card does require you to summon at least 1 leper gnome to make itself worth it, so for competative sake I'd say this card is a no go. Flame leviathan: No. There is a reason why war golem is terrible, this card is terrible for the same reason. 7 attack is easily removed by the BGH and boulderfist ogre is about as good, but for 1 mana less. The effect on this minion also seems weird, because it activates when you DRAW the card. This means you have no control over the spell effect, which ruins potential plays with the card, making this card terrible. Hemet Nesingwary: Also looks terrible. There is only one class that uses beasts on a regular basis, making the battlecry worthless most of the time. The statline is also terrible. Although I would say he is slightly better than Blingtron. Blingtron: Looks like an awful card. Like absolutely dreadful. First of all the statline is bad, second of all the battlecry also assists its opponent. Mimiron's Head (V07TRON): This one seems like the Thaddius of a mech deck. I think this will be used quite a lot in decks that are full mech. All other decks tho, I wouldnt take this. Malganis: Blizzard wants to make demon decks a thing, which I am not happy with. Gives Warlocks even more attention >:(. So basically I think this card is a must for demon decks, because its effect. As the 9/7 for 9 mana is not a good statline, I wouldn't run it in any other deck, even when your hero would be immume as long as this minion is alive. [/spoiler][/quote]

[quote=Vaan99]I think troggzor and sneed's old shredder will become new staples, with cairne, sylvannas and loatheb. After reading your post Searz I decided to expand my opinion a bit. Your list is okay, but I don't agree with some placements. Gahz'rilla isn't nowhere near tier 1, maybe if it was warrior card, but since it's hunter card without charge, it's too slow and unreliable. By turn 9 game should be almost over and you should be pushing last few hero powers for finish and waiting for kill command topdeck, or in this case you can play gahrzilla and waste whole turn on nothing; don't forget the fact that hunter has poor board control later in game, so if you manage to get gahrzilla to survive 1 turn to attack, there is no guarantee that enemy won't have multiple taunts. I rate Gahrzilla in tier 3, in arena is definitely better. Mogor deseves to be placed higher, you actually explained it nicelly, I'd place it in tier 2.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]@Meiyjhe You're waaay off :P 1. Voljin - Hit anything with 5 and you essentially played a 6/8 (6/5 stats, reduced enemy HP by 3), which alone is good enough, but when considering the trades it makes possible it's just really good. 2. Trade Prince Gallywix - amazing stat-line and a good effect. 3. Troggzor The Earthinator - subpar stats, but amazing effect. 4. Sneed's Old Shredder - AMAZING value. The only problem is that it is very slow and only tends to win the game by out-valuing your opponent. 5. Gahz'rilla - a potential game-ender with a great stat-line. 6. Iron Juggernaut - 10 damage for pretty much 1 mana (you'd pay 5mana for a 6/5, so the effect costs you roughly 1mana) is fucking insane in a control deck. 7. Dr.Boom - Boomb Bots are just fantastic. 8. Foe Reaper 4000 - The difference between 7 and 8 mana is big. This also poses less of a threat of ending the game than Gahz'rilla. This is where the great cards stop: 9. Mal'Ganis - bad stat-line, but very strong effect. It's not hard to negate the effect though. 10. Toshley - pretty weak effect, but good stat-line. Killing Loethebs and Sludge Belchers is the only reason this card will shine. This is where the good cards stop: 11. Neptulon - Decent stat-line, decent effect. It's probably too expensive to run in a Murloc deck because of how bad it could clog up your hand. It might see play in control though. 12. Malorne - The effect only really becomes relevant if you're going into fatigue, but the stats are good enough for it to be decent. Very good in arena tho. 13. Mogor the Ogre - the only reason he's even decent is the fact that the effect is in your control, meaning that you can attack normally, then drop this guy and the opponent can't do what he wants. 14. Hemet Nesingwary - horrible stats, but potentially very strong effect. Could be a good pick if Hunters ever start dominating(even more than they already are). 15. Bolvar Fordragon - good in control, but very unreliable and pretty underwhelming in general. If you need to keep a card in your hand for like 5+ turns for it to be good then it's not exactly great, and if you draw this toward the end of your deck then you're gonna kill yourself. 16. Mimiron's Head - good stat-line. It's an underbudgeted Yeti. The effect is very win-more, but in the rare case that it goes off it's an incredible effect. And this is where the decent cards stop: 17. Gazlowe - Really bad stats and very lackluster effect. When you compare this to cards like Sylvanas you think "why the fuck wasn't this 5mana?". Even at 5 it wouldn't be that good. 18. Flame Leviathan - pretty bad. The stats are unimpressive and the effect being out of your control makes it an extremely lackluster card. 19. Blingtron 3000 - you gain the initiative with the weapon and you also have the ability to run weapon-removal to benefit extra from the card. That said, it's still not a good card. 20. Mekgineer Thermaplug - really freaking bad. Bad stats and an extremely lackluster effect for a card that essentially makes you skip an entire turn to play. Hell no.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Made a Hobgoblin deck :D http://www.hearthhead.com/deckbuilder#cMzV7McM7MmU7MV47Mbv7zbH7MbW7Mnk7Mxq7Mxx7MgN7MvS7zv47MEz7MEo7MEk8q Actually seems kind of semi-viable. The biggest problem is easily the reliance on the Hobgoblins themselves. If you don't draw them you're pretty much fucked. It's a pretty inconsistent deck in other words. But it could be extremely powerful.[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu]Bought 10 packs, 1 legendary and 1 epic. [img=http://i.gyazo.com/e3bb15a427a09b24543c439e033bd8bf.png width=600][/quote]

[quote=Searz]I think I may have overvalued Iron Juggernaut previously. He's definitely good, but the unreliable nature of the mines are definitely a problem. [quote=Joxuu]Bought 10 packs, 1 legendary and 1 epic.[/quote] Ouch, seems like we both got one of the bad legendaries. I got Mimiron's Head. Tried him in a mech deck 3 times and I'm now ready to give up on him forever. I opened 20 packs (saved up in preparation) and I got 1 legendary, 8 epics, one of which were golden and a golden Mech Warper. The golden epic was Steamwheedle Sniper. I got two of those. I also got a Coghammer and a Piloted Skygolem :D Pretty happy. The other 4 epics were useless tho. (Wee Spellstopper, Tree of Life, Shadowbomber and Lightbomb)[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu]My current priest deck; [img=http://i.gyazo.com/9ef6fa41881f9e4b1282648aa2f836d3.png width=600] EDIT: I posted outdated one accidently. -1 holy smite, -1 thoughtsteal +2 dark cultist Any improvements? I've thought about adding big game hunter at the very least. Possibly removing 1 chow, thoughtsteal completly and power of word shield.[/quote]

[quote=HiFromBuddha]So, I don't play much Hearthstone. It isn't my cup of tea. I just have one question from when I was playing it though. What are the advantages to going first and going second? Are there any instances where going first is preferable? From when I was playing, it seemed that it always was better to go second considering how you get the coin and an extra card if memory serves.[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu]I think the one going second has slight advantage due receiving the coin which can be used to combo with minions. Not a huge difference though. The one going first usually gains board dominance unless your opponent wants to play coin on turn 1.[/quote]