Been experimenting

[quote=Pranzatelli][quote]Your build order would still be cloth > philo > hog[/quote] This seems like the best idea (with options for switching around philo and hog). The gp10 runes are, in total, 5.25 gp10; barely more than a gp10 item. I would love to try a support with full gp10 runes, but having them doesn't break the supports' addiction to an early source of gold. I would be surprised if it meant a 6-minute Frozen Heart on little to no farm, but I guess weirder things have happened.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=The_Nameless_Bard] he's commenting that there's no need to say that I have full [[greed]] points since I clearly have the [[wealth]] mastery (which I must have full [[greed]] points to have taken) [/quote] So it wasnt funny at all Ty AncientNecro, you explained it perfectly I'm not sure about cloth > philo, I'd go philo > hog + defense rune page[/quote]

[quote=lifebaka][quote=Pranzatelli] I would be surprised if it meant a 6-minute Frozen Heart on little to no farm, but I guess weirder things have happened. [/quote] Including the gp10 from [[Greed]], a champion with full gp10 runes will get 20.25 gold every 10 seconds; roughly two gold per second. So it would take a minimum (with [[Wealth]]) of (2775 - 515)/2.025 =~ 1116.05 seconds, or 18 minutes 36 seconds, after minion spawn to get a [[Frozen Heart]] without farming, champion kills, or assists.[/quote]

[quote=Pranzatelli][quote]So it would take a minimum (with Wealth) of (2775 - 515)/2.025 =~ 1116.05 seconds, or 18 minutes 36 seconds, after minion spawn to get a Frozen Heart without farming, champion kills, or assists.[/quote] Exactly. You'd have to get quite a few assists.[/quote]