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Let's Talk - Jungle Kayle

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June 12, 2012 1:44am
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Xaioli » June 12, 2012 1:44am | Report
As the title says, let's talk about jungle Kayle! If these discussions spark enough interest from the community, I'll make one or two of these a week. What I possibly want to do with these "let's talk" threads is to talk about things that are often overlooked by the community and what could possibly set the new "meta" because all meta's are set by brainstorming and working with champions and strategies that are often overlooked. If a few of you think that things like this is unnecessary or should be somewhere else, let me know, I won't get mad ;)

Anyways, let's get into Kayle overall as a champion.

Kayle Base Stats


Kayle
Statistics
Health 418 (+93)
Health regen. 7.0 (+0.75)
Mana 255 (+40)
Mana regen. 6.9 (+0.525)
Range 125
Attack damage 53.3 (+2.8)
Attack speed 0.638 (+2.5%)
Armor 17 (+3.5)
Magic res. 30 (+0.75)
Mov. speed 310

Kayle Abilities/Skills




Holy Fervor is Kayle's innate or passive. Essentially every auto attack whether it's melee range or Righteous Fury range, it'll shred the target's resistances by 3%(up to 15%) each attack for 5 seconds.

Reckoning is Kayle's ranged slow that scales at a 1:1 ratio with her ability power and attack damage. The great thing about this is that Kayle does increased extra percentile damage to the target afflicted by Reckoning so her damage is drastically increased.

Divine Blessing is Kayle's heal and move speed. To be honest, the healing is very negligible but the move speed bonus is something not to be taken lightly because it can easily be put on an ally to engage/escape or to be used on Kayle for ganking/mobility purposes.

Righteous Fury is absolutely Kayle's bread and butter because it is a damage steroid while increasing her attack range and, it's basically a psuedo- Tiamat with it's splash damage. The amazing thing about this spell is that on-hit effects work with it for example, Blessing of the Lizard Elder

Intervention is a lifesaver whether it's for Kayle herself or for allies. A spell that protects teammates of any damage over any period of time is considered "overpowered" in a way and I feel like this ultimate allows Kayle to bring a lot to a team with her utility and damage.

Lane Kayle and "Jungle Kayle"



With the recent passing of MLG Anaheim, we saw a lot of Kayle top lane by TSM and it proved to be very terrifying with a Karthus combo. Almost every player that keeps up with the "trending meta" has been finding out that Kayle is one of the most horrific top laners because of her damage and mobility in lane and has definitely earned respect from many top laners after her recent remake. With jungle Kayle, we're essentially taking all of the assets that make her terrifying in lane and putting her in the jungle because her ganks are fearsome with the ranged slow from Reckoning and her well-known tremendous damage punches hard. Really, there's nothing too different from them except for the lane swap and the questionable in jungle Kayle in "profession Arranged 5's" games. However, jungle Kayle has proven that she's a terrifying Solo Queue jungler!

Proposed Set-Up/Standard Jungle Kayle



Masteries:


Skill Sequence Priority:

Intervention -> Righteous Fury -> Reckoning -> Divine Blessing
*Note: @ L1 Righteous Fury; L2 Reckoning and L3 Divine Blessing then follow Skill Sequence Priority

Jungle Route:

1) Start Blue or Red. DON'T FORGET TO KILL WRAITHS OR WOLVES AT 1:40.
2) Gank mid or top at Level 2 with Righteous Fury and Reckoning
3) Farm jungle and gank as often as possible. Fairly simple and straight forward

Item Build:

Boots+3HP -> Dorans (If Needed) -> Guinsoo Rageblade(if dunking hard, skip and go for black cleaver) -> Black Cleaver (recommended because it synergizes well with Kayle and onhit). After black cleaver, just buy whatever you need to survive against or to kill the enemy team.

Time to Talk



So, what are your thoughts? I know jungle Kayle isn't something "new" but it's definitely not well-known throughout the community and I feel like it can greatly help you guys gain ELO in Solo Queue since there's always a thread or two about "elo hell" or etc every week. Even if you aren't that into ranked games, Kayle jungle is just fun to play overall!

DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF THIS SOMEWHAT WORKS BEFORE I EVEN THINK ABOUT THIS BRO???



imgur.com/7ZnwX.jpg - Fairly decent elo game even though it wasn't Ranked. Most players in that normal was 1600+ with a few 2k's.

imgur.com/AVzGe.jpg - Katamari is my smurf at 1700-1800 ELO and I'm 8-0 as jungle Kayle. Those two losses are NOT MINE, FRIEND PLAYED ON THIS ACCOUNT BEFORE I GOT IT AND THEY SUCK. Anyways, 8 games aren't a huge sample portion but most of those games are stomps around the 1700-1800 bracket but trust me, I've played a lot of jungle Kayle in normals too! ;)

TL;DR - LET'S TALK JUNGLE KAYLE BRO BECAUSE I THINK JUNGLE KAYLE IS UNDERRATED



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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Yukimaru » June 12, 2012 1:46am | Report
tldr/
On topic: shouldnt that be in the Mathcraft section? pls move that Thread, kthx
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LOL I THOUGHT I CLICKED ON THEORY CRAFT LOL MY BAD WTF


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Hutshi » June 12, 2012 2:03am | Report
Jungle Kayle is awesome, she doesn't require top notch positioning because of her long range, and her ganks with red buff is really powerful. I actually dare to say that she is one of the best junglers atm.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by A Chubby Baby » June 12, 2012 2:23am | Report
love. but she does need the red buff to get a good gank.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Dainou » June 12, 2012 4:03am | Report
I love the idea of having her in jungle, one of my favorite champs and maybe I can use her even more, by main her in jungle :D

Have also seen a guide using her as a ''support'' jungeler, wile this pack more of a punch with rageblade/cleaver. So item build would be rageblade/cleaver, then defensive like mallet/warmog, atma or the top lane ad version? Maybe triforce with blackcleaver, some defense and atma?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by FalseoGod » June 12, 2012 6:55am | Report
The thing about jungle Kayle is that every single time I get people questioning my sanity and if it goes wrong (failing = falling behind of doom) I'm instantly a troll that should die with aids
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by utopus » June 12, 2012 7:09am | Report
Yeah to be honest, I don't see why she isn't that much of a jungler. I mean, she has a heal + MS steroid, a natural slow, a ranged AoE, and a sexy ult that wins games.

If people can alistar jungle, i don't see why kayle jungle would be much different. (in the respect that they can both set up kills pretty well)

My only objection is that Kayle has kinda ****py sustained healing early game, so I'm sorta questioning how fast her early game jungle clear is.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by FalseoGod » June 12, 2012 7:25am | Report
utopus wrote:

My only objection is that Kayle has kinda ****py sustained healing early game, so I'm sorta questioning how fast her early game jungle clear is.
P.S. Nice to see you back, xai. Idk why but i thought you fell off the face of the planet haha


He said boots, I usually do cloth + 5 pots. She's really fast, E sweeps everything (wraiths die all simultaneously if you focus the big one, wolves almost the same, golems a bit slower).
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Opaque_Shadow » June 12, 2012 10:04am | Report
I will now betrying this, however I dislike any masteries setups that dont have 21 in one tree, mostly bacause you miss out on the BIG bonuses you get when you go deep in the tree's, Il pick up kayle as she's cheap as hell and let ya'll know... now I have three junglers to try this week lol.
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