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Why is my flex que rank showing on my Guide and...

Creator: Agoney January 26, 2017 12:46pm
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the rank 1 flex player on na is ****ing gold 3 in solo

I think this quote alone is enough to make it clear that solo and flex queue ranks should absolutely not be treated equally. I think it's smarter to not just take flex q rank into account at all (sorry Ferret ;-;), at least not while the queue is in as bad a state as it is right now.
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he's not duoing with anyone, he probably wasn't boosted, it must cost a ton to get boosted to rank 1 challenger even in flex queue, it's unimaginable. sure he hasn't played much soloQ so it could be a smurf, but i would expect plat placements from a challenger smurf.

flex queue is a ****ing joke.

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I feel like I need to chime into this and give my opinion since I’ve played more Flex than anyone here, and am Challenged in it myself on EUW.

Before I say anything, know that I agree with most of what has been said, and most people’s opinions on the matter. Flex Queue is mostly a joke, it sounds like its worse on non EUW Regions, but it’s still stupid nonetheless overall and being Flex in Challenger definitely isn’t bragging rights and it doesn’t mean you’re a Challenger player by any means. I’d go as far as to say that AT BEST, I might be a Master Tier player, but I don’t think I’m good enough to be Challenger in Solo Queue.

Most of my friends aren’t as highly ranked as me, and I can’t duo with them in Solo Q because of that, so when Season 7 started I just played a bunch of Flex with them. After only a few days I was D3, and I skipped promo from D3 to D1 and so was like **** it I’m here already might as well get Challenger, then focus on Solo Q. Once I got D1 in Flex I also only solo’d from then onwards. I’m the type of guy that doesn’t like to leave things half done, and since I was already so close I thought why not. The fact that I knew I could get Challenger in Flex also says a lot, because as I said, I probably wouldn’t be able to get Challenger in Solo Q, especially when you consider that I don’t always get Ahri.

For me it was actually a challenge getting Challenger because my MMR got destroyed when I first hit D1 (two 5 loss streaks while at 0 LP) and so my LP gains were +15/16 -17/18. Now I don’t know if anyone has experienced trying to climb with LP gains like that, but it aint easy.

When I actually got Challenger, I didn’t even feel that satisfied. I felt more satisfied getting D1 back in Season 5 than I did getting Challenger in Flex, because I know that it doesn’t mean all that much. Still, it was pretty cool I guess.

I think H4x is being a bit OTT saying that Flex Chall “is probably the equivalent of platinum/d5 in BIG western regions (na/euw)” especially after I actually went through every Flex Challenger player to see what their Solo Ranks are. This is what I found:

The Top 10 players’ Solo Q Ranks on Flex EUW are currently:
D1 100 LP
D4 82 LP
D1 30 LP
Master 55 LP
D1 38 LP
D3 100 LP
D2 64 LP
Master 232 LP
D2 91 LP
Master 294 LP

There’s actually a very large portion of players that are Masters, D1, or were Master in Season 6, probably even over half of the players. I found 1 person that wasn’t Diamond, or ex Diamond that was a smurf, and I found 2 people who were neither Diamond, ex Diamond or a smurf. Oh and there was this one guy who was a D5 Janna main, so basically Silver at best player.

Now I can only comment on EUW, but maybe EUW has the most competitive Flex? I’m not sure, but the majority of Challenger Flex players on EUW are either current Master/Challenger/D1 in Solo, or ex Master/Challenger/D1 in Solo Q.

You’d think that might give it some legitimacy? Still no. The fact of the matter is that Flex is ****ed solely because of the matchmaking, and it’s as simple as that. If my Flex games put me vs other Flex Challengers, or high Diamond Flex players, then most games will be filled with high Diamond/Master players. This just isn’t possible though because of the lower player base, and the already ridiculous Q times.

I’m still being matched with and against people that are PLAT in Flex, which is just ridiculous. The fluctuation in ranks with each game is laughable honestly, it’s very entertaining! I mean just look at this (Flex Ranks) from the other week.

The main problem with Flex Q, and the main reason it’s a joke is because it’s a new Queue, and it doesn’t take Solo Rank into account. If Flex was around from the start like Solo/Duo Queue, then this problem likely wouldn’t exist. Maybe Riot should have used Solo MMR when matchmaking in Flex, I dunno, but it’s too late now.

Just my 2 cents, also I'm in a rush so sorry for any mistakes or **** that doesn't make sense :D

tldr: I'm Challenged in EUW Flex and I agree with everyone, it's a joke and it's nothing to be proud of really.
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We were originally going to verify the highest between flex and solo but there was a bug and it was only taking Flex I suppose.

Our initial thoughts were that since Riot is counting both ranks towards season rewards it made sense to take the highest for your elo display to match Riot's approach, but after hearing your feedback we're going to revert to only take your soloq tier for ranked displays and achievements while we discuss what to do about flex rank. You should see this fix up soon.
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Thanks for listening to us mowen, we really do appreciate it.
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Can it please be possible to totally unverify an account, completely removing any ranking(s) associated with said account? I don't want my flex rating to even show, but I'm not ranked in solo queue and it verified it by default because I didn't bother to remove my summoner name again when the season ended. It won't allow me to get rid of the old ranking and it won't even verify accurately either (it still says I'm in Bronze when I'm actually in Silver) and this shows up on your new guide sorting system.

EDIT: It won't even verify a new account with no ranking as unranked, this ranking appears to be completely stuck to my MOBAfire account.
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You're only seeing it in the summoner info in you profile right? I'm not seeing any badges or indicators anywhere else, but that not wiping must be a bug. We'll get it fixed for you. :)
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Mowen wrote:
You're only seeing it in the summoner info in you profile right?
no, it also shows here:
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