Choosing a tank

[quote=DuffTime]It is inferior to other items, even if it does help with the lane. :P[/quote]

[quote=CasterMaster]"Your skills are inferior?," ~ [[Master Yi]] =D[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn]Why RoA is bad? It gives a good mix of stats for a good price[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Because its late game implications are worse for a tank. It's like an expensive AP version of wriggles in a way...I can see Duff's point, but I've yet to completely fail with Cho by rushing RoA on him. Doesn't mean I've always won, but RoA helps me snowball...OR it feels that way XD.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Because its late game implications are worse for a tank. It's like an expensive AP version of wriggles in a way...I can see Duff's point, but I've yet to completely fail with Cho by rushing RoA on him. Doesn't mean I've always won, but RoA helps me snowball...OR it feels that way XD. [/quote] I see your point. Which item could replace it late game so you wont lose so much HP, MP and AP?[/quote]

[quote=Pineberry]I personally enjoy [[Galio]]. If you are against an AP heavy team I highly recommend him. On the flip side, if I'm up against a heavy AD team, [[Malphite]] is the absolute counter to them. Besides these case specifics, I feel like there's really a lack of "true" tanks. Next champs who come to mind are probably [[Leona]], [[Shen]], [[Sejuani]], [[Amumu]], and [[Rammus]]. [[Alistar]] is extremely tanky with just his ultimate. However he's mostly played support these days. Next few champions that are not actually true tanks but are getting closer are probably [[Jarvan IV]], [[Cho'Gath]], [[Singed]], [[Maokai]] and [[Shyvana]]. Great tanks if built towards that point, but probably more optimal with a few different items. [[Taric]] if you want a tanky support. [[Dr. Mundo]] and [[Volibear]] are extremely tanky(probably more off tanks than true tanks). [[Volibear]] has more teamfight presence though. Everybody else I feel is an off tank, or obviously any other role. EDIT: To address the above point, RoA on [[Cho'Gath]] is a great item, but the farm required to get you there is incredible. You could be buying lots of other items with all that gold. I [b]usually[/b] buy a RoA because I farm like a beast with Cho, but if the lane isn't looking too good or I am underfarmed, I will go with double gp/5 items([[Philosopher's Stone]] and [[Heart of Gold]]). If you REALLY want items to replace your "HP deficit" and "mana deficit" from the lack of RoA, I would recommend upgrading the Philo Stone into [[Shurelya's Reverie]] for HP, and buying a [[Frozen Heart]](which you should be doing anyway). However you can really just buy a Catalyst, and if you have 6 Feast stacks, that will sit you comfortably at 3k HP and alleviate your mana. Not bad at all. As for AP, [[Abyssal Scepter]] is a good MR item that provides decent AP while giving a sexy aura to boost. It's great for not just you, but other casters on your team. Hope these item suggestions helped out.[/quote]

[quote=MDC]Shyvana a tank?[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]IN THE END IT COMES BACK TO THE CHO TOPIC T.T [quote=TheJohn] I see your point. Which item could replace it late game so you wont lose so much HP, MP and AP? [/quote] You don't need to replace anything with it. Cho's ult already gives him a LOT of hp, which is one reason why Cho is a strong tank. His ult already allows him to straight on buy resistance items and still be able to go in teamfights raping everybody. I didn't play Cho solotop for months, but all I can remember is that a Banshee's Veil was enough to supply Cho's need for health. As for mana, Frozen Heart solves it. And as Cho you don't need AP at all. Generally you build Cho as a CDR tank that constantly disrupts enemies because your set already does a lot of damage. I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT CHO AAAAAAAAA [quote = MDC] Shyvana a tank? [/quote] Nope. You don't want to be building her tank. Since her ult gives a LOT of resistances already, you just go more on the damage side. Something like Wriggles, Merc, Phage, Wit's end. I forgot the build *-*[/quote]

[quote=Embracing][quote=Pineberry] Next champs who come to mind are probably [[Leona]], [[Shen]], [[Sejuani]], [[Amumu]], and [[Rammus]]. [[Alistar]] is extremely tanky with just his ultimate. However he's mostly played support these days. Next few champions that are not actually true tanks but are getting closer are probably [[Jarvan IV]], [[Cho'Gath]], [[Singed]], [[Maokai]] and [[Shyvana]]. Great tanks if built towards that point, but probably more optimal with a few different items. [[Taric]] if you want a tanky support. [[Dr. Mundo]] and [[Volibear]] are extremely tanky(probably more off tanks than true tanks). [[Volibear]] has more teamfight presence though. Everybody else I feel is an off tank, or obviously any other role. [/quote] You go full tank on Leona? I was always building her offtanky (in the jungle), because her W already gave her a TON of resistances. Otherwise she should be played as support bot Shen should be built Ap/Tanky if played currently (He's getting some buffs soon though) Sej I haven't played but people I've seen built her offtanky... And for current full tanks, the ones I remember are Cho if built CDR / tank Maokai in jungle (haven't seen top or mid build full on tanky) Rammus Amumu[/quote]

[quote=MDC][quote=RosePhoenix] [quote = MDC] Shyvana a tank? [/quote] Nope. You don't want to be building her tank. Since her ult gives a LOT of resistances already, you just go more on the damage side. Something like Wriggles, Merc, Phage, Wit's end. I forgot the build *-* [/quote] There is edit button. Also that saying lacked expression (I dislike smilies), whoever thinks, shyvana, morde and alike are tanks without any good cc, are close to insane.[/quote]