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The Trayvon Martin Case Discussion

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if I was stupid how did I get into a national maths and science specialist school?

This is just rather laughable.
Being good at math doesn't make all your statements automatically un******ed.
My little brother is literally ******ed, he's good at maths because he has some kind of autistic something something. Yet he's 13 and can't even wipe his own arse.

What searz is pointing out is that you're denying information: You say he's being threatened whereas there's pictures of an injured george zimmerman.
Since you're good at math you'd know that 2=multiple, mister zimmerman has 2 wounds at the back of his head so his head was indeed slammed multiple times against the ground.

He wasn't in a state where his life was in danger or suffered severe physical trauma after the incident BECAUSE he shot his aggressor before severe damage could be inflicted onto him, if he hadn't he might've looked a whole lot different - dead guys don't hurt people
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Just saying, there are some dumbass scientists and mathletes out there.
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Ok I think this thread needs locked now... all in favor?
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you are the ignorant one

This indicates that I've called you ignorant in the past, something which I have not done. Either your logic or your language skills are failing you.
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now I know I said I wouldn't dignify this thread with another answer but if you are too ignorant to actually read what I have written I will politely ask you to read again and stop being ignorant.

You're politely asking me to 'stop being ignorant'? Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's not especially polite.
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if I was stupid how did I get into a national maths and science specialist school?

Best. Argument. Ever.
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You don't even provide reason for why my answers are 'stupid'

That's fairly easy to solve.
Since you're clearly too stupid to figure things out yourself I'll guide you through your most ******ed points, but you do realize that I did provide ample justification for half of my points, right? Take some time and read it again.
the fact that you can kill someone even for suspicion of them attacking you is ********.

That is CLEARLY not what happened here.
The shooter was clearly attacked several times, with attacks that could cause permanent damage or even death had he not protected himself by firing that gun.
I think guilty until proven innocent would be the right thing to go by here because if Zimmeman was inncent he would have nothing to be worried about and innocence is ensured.

So if you... let's say got framed for something, you would not worry in the least because you were innocent?
That's not how the world works. Wrong decisions are made all the time, the courts are of course not exempt from this either. To believe otherwise is idealistic nonsense.

And then we come to the issue about treating people like they're guilty until proven innocent. The largest issue with that is probably how much power and control that is placed in the hands of the police or other law-upholding entities.
This is an insanely large topic however and would probably warrant another thread to keep discussing.
how do you get your gun out and shoot someone in the chest accurately without swaying and making the shot move to the sides? if you had your head slammed into the ground I can tell you you would either 1. be knocked out cold or 2. be extremely disoriented and not be able to grab your gun out of your pocket or wherever you store it, while underneath someone else being assaulted let alone shoot him while he is moving on top of you?

I'm pretty sure he didn't shoot someone 'accurately'. Consider the fact that he has someone sitting ****ing on top of him. Would ANYBODY realistically miss that shot without interference from something? (the answer is no, it's a rhetorical question. This is probably needed since I doubt you'll understand it unless I spell it out for you)
Now there could be a TON of different scenarios, some where he manages to shoot him despite being punched at the same time, some where he gets it out quick enough to go unnoticed, but I think pretty much anybody in this thread can agree that it's not unrealistic in the least that he was able to shoot Treyvon in the chest during their struggle.
if Zimmerman was in such danger that he could justify it as being scared for his life why did the doctor that examined him say that his "injuries" were not life threatening and very insignificant? I pity all you poor bastards that live in a country with drooling mouth-breathers that think getting hit once or twice is enough reason to kill someone.

I'm gonna quote some words from SkidmarkD here:
"The human body is frail.
A wrong hit, strength being of lesser importance, can kill.
Most people seem to forget that."
One slash to an important artery could make somebody bleed out in minutes.
One hard smash to the head COULD break the skull and cause permanent damage or even death.

Just because something didn't cause severe or permanent damage does not mean that it couldn't have. That's a generalization fallacy.

There we go, all points properly explained. I await your rebuttal.
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You know what, I really can't be bothered arguing with you anymore because honestly well I have a life and can't be bothered checking **** so have fun all judging me about my (yes I will admit this) stupid comments, the whole school thing was stupid but me being me I didn't think about what I was saying which is how I got into this mess in the first place so ciao

Edit: if I have to spell that out for you that means I won't be able to prove my side of the argument as I am explaining what I'm trying to say terribly and you seem to be about as stubborn as me so I've seen the sense not to waste my time and back down. Also I never said it was unrealistic to shoot him, I said accurately and it might have been possible but that is an off chance, I agree that he definitely would've been able to shoot him in the chest, I just doubted the fact that his hand didn't waver and shoot off to the side. MY contribution to this thread=over sorry to bother you with my badly typed argument.
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I haven't really read any of it except on the last page and randomly bumps in.

But...


I have a life


The irony in this quote and your username..
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Moon, please don't rip me apart.

In his defense, he said something about his head being bashed into concrete.
The cuts on his head aren't from concrete.
And if you ARE getting your head bashed onto concrete, you wouldn't be able to say HELP repeatedly without gasping for breath or your sentence being interrupted.
He baited Trayvon. He WANTED to pull that out. He didn't just "have it for self defense", he wanted to use it.


Again, this is what I interpret from a 2 minute video that I saw.
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Where did you get your forensics degree / medical degree, veng? You must have one to make a call like that.

Does getting your head smacked mean your vocal chords stop working?

You're an idiot. Stop making blind stupid assumptions, or do. Go put on a hoodie and get shot by rubber bullets, please.
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