Alistar W->Q Combo

[quote=Adonikam]So I went into a custom and learnt how to do this (It's basically really hard for Australians to do) and afterwards I immediately went into a ranked game with my duo Q mate Lovensheimer. First game we were purple team Ali+Trist VS Vayne+Soraka. I told Lovens to push a little faster then them (So we could get level 2 faster) and then I warded the left brush. I hit level two and W+Q'd Soraka, Lovens used reduced healing and she died asap. I flash W'd Vayne and killed her after. ANYWAY I digress, in summary we were 2/0/2 [u]each[/u] within 6 minutes and had their tower down. (We lost because Trundle top died 4 times to Irelia). Second game we tried a different tactic (we were blue team) we killed the double golems as soon as they spawned (Amumu was starting blue so they came back when he got there) and then I waited for two again (we were vsing Soraka+Ashe) warded their brush, and W+Q'd into it. I messed my combo up and we almost lost the lane because of it (Amumu gank put as in again then I didn't mess up again). Anyway, anyone tried these tactics before? It's actually a really strong duo Q strategy and almost guaranteed to win you your lane. [img=http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7462/aliwq.png][/quote]

[quote=Toshabi]Alistar pretty much is a free malphite ult every 10 seconds if you can land it every time.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]I... I need to practice W-Q.... All I do it Flash-Q-W, or W a minion and Q the champs. :( I'm a noob...[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]W->Q combo is pretty standard to use on [[Alistar]] isn't it? :S[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]It is not that easy to land it correctly, most often I headput people away before stump is going in :P[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]I think it's harder when you use your [[Headbutt]] on max range. For some reason I feel like it has something to do with the animation of the skill: even if you [[Headbutt]] someone from close range, [[Alistar]] still has to complete his [[Headbutt]] animation before knocking someone back, giving you just a little bit more time to [[Pulverize]].. But to be honest that's just what it feels like, not sure whether that's actually true xD[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam][quote=Wayne3100] W->Q combo is pretty standard to use on [[Alistar]] isn't it? :S [/quote] It's really hard to get the hang of with 200+ ping[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]Right >.< Yeah I read that and kind of ignored it apparently, my bad :P Still though asking whether anyone else ever tried this makes it sound like something special/new (which it isn't imho) ^^[/quote]

[quote=Adonikam]Oh I was referring to the 1. Warding left brush, pushing lane faster then W+Q for FB/lane dominance and 2. Killing double golems to get level 2/half way to level 2 and winning your lane that way.[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]Right, I thought that were simply examples of how the W-->Q combo can work out well. To answer the actual question then (finally xD): I have used wards in the brush in order to be able to do my W+Q combo. Especially when laning with [[Vayne]] I would advise warding the brush since it also allows her to stun enemies with [[Condemn]]. Getting both golems (if your jungler starts @ blue buff) is actually a high ELO trick I picked up during the IEM NY. Haven't done that myself yet though :O no idea why, thanks for reminding me lol xD[/quote]