WTB morg rework

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]Morgana's not that hard to deal with, just play Galio.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS].......So basically you're just lazy? REALIZE that Morg SHOULD be farming up for RoA/Hourglass so she'll have ~200 AP whilst you get a Rabadon's and jump up to ~400 AP. Plenty of champs can out farm Morg and THEIR damage is considerably higher early on. Morg has 2 offense based skills pre 6. IF she misses her bind, then you can easily step out of her Tormented Soil....I'm still failing to see WHY you're complaining. Want to out AoE clear morg? Take Brand/Ziggs/Viktor/Ahri, their early game damage is above her's and are easily capable of forcing her from lane. This complaint and idea Morg needs a rework is completely and utterly unnecessary. All I've seemed to gather is that you're upset Morg's mechqnics allow her to farm well. Essentially "She doesn't need to work for it" woopty doo, get over it. IDK what more to say really, but Morg isn't the end all beat all you're making her out to be. I'm not trying to sound like an ass hole, but you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot]Fizz kind of facerolls morg too, Either you trollpole out of Binding, or you get caught while q:ing so if she is quick on the combo you are not on soil when caught. Akali just one needs one essence of shadow to get out of her ulti range before it locks down... There are a number of ways to deal with her, and that's not counting just pure Mercs...[/quote]

[quote=The Overmyynd]You want "doesnt have to work at farming"? Try solo topping against a Mord. Has no mana, early Hextech makes his abilities TOTALLY free by lvl 6 (and before that they cost so little life that buying a shield and not spamming them to shit does the job good enough), which means infinite sustain, and all he has to do is use his three abilities at lvl 7 to wipe out an entire creepwave in five seconds, getting every single last hit nearly guaranteed, all the while getting tankier and tankier as he does it because the spells he uses to clear the waves GIVE HIM A PASSIVE SHIELD THAT DOESNT GO AWAY AS LONG AS HE IS CASTING HIS FREE SPELLS THAT HAVE RIDICULOUSLY LOW CD TIMES. THAT, sir, is broken. The only person i consistently lose to in lane like this is Garen. Silence+spin to win=ow. As for morgana, dodge her Q, poke her back and land your skill shots, call for a gank when she hits lvl 7 or 8, outfarm her, have everyone on the team get a banshees to block her ult late game, win. Banshees is just too damn useful for almost every character anyway so thats not much of a problem. The answer to most problems in mid lane is to harass the hell out of the people you are playing against. You can either do what i just said, or play leblanc. Leblanc trumps most mids, including morg.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][[Morgana]] is one of the most overrated champions in the game[/quote]

[quote=Vitigam][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Play Katarina against Morg, give no fucks..... Morg is somewhat like Kennen, you almost NEED to get Hourglass, which delays her damage considerably, unlike rushing deathcap on 99% of other AP mids. If you're having trouble in lane against Morg, you're either failing to avoid her snare, or not understanding the advantages of early harass against a champion who can't win trades without landing her Q. Morg can't handle persistent harass early. She doesn't need a rework, you just need to learn how to counter her mechanics. As well to clarify her Tormented Soil only clears caster creeps when it is rank 3 with minimal AP. And it's due to the fact that Tormented Soil reduces MR over time as it ticks. Either way, Morg isn't the end all beat all AP mid. She's a SAFE pick for mid lane. Hard to gank essentially "immune" to CC if you can't break her shield. Capable of farming with minimal effort. SAFE, not OP, not broken, not impossible to kill, SAFE. You just gotta get better at fighting her. [/quote] Agreed, she really isn't broken. You just got to work around her, ever champ has their counters, right?[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS][quote=The Overmyynd] You want "doesnt have to work at farming"? Try solo topping against a Mord. Has no mana, early Hextech makes his abilities TOTALLY free by lvl 6 (and before that they cost so little life that buying a shield and not spamming them to shit does the job good enough), which means infinite sustain, and all he has to do is use his three abilities at lvl 7 to wipe out an entire creepwave in five seconds, getting every single last hit nearly guaranteed, all the while getting tankier and tankier as he does it because the spells he uses to clear the waves GIVE HIM A PASSIVE SHIELD THAT DOESNT GO AWAY AS LONG AS HE IS CASTING HIS FREE SPELLS THAT HAVE RIDICULOUSLY LOW CD TIMES. THAT, sir, is broken. The only person i consistently lose to in lane like this is Garen. Silence+spin to win=ow. As for morgana, dodge her Q, poke her back and land your skill shots, call for a gank when she hits lvl 7 or 8, outfarm her, have everyone on the team get a banshees to block her ult late game, win. Banshees is just too damn useful for almost every character anyway so thats not much of a problem. The answer to most problems in mid lane is to harass the hell out of the people you are playing against. You can either do what i just said, or play leblanc. Leblanc trumps most mids, including morg. [/quote] 1. What does Morde have to do with ANYTHING? 2. Leblanc wins early, and then proceeds to drop off. Morg is the opposite. So either you bank on your team COMPLETELY carrying you late game (unlikely), or you passively farm as Morg and bring more utility in team fights. 3. Harassing the enemy doesn't work 100% of the time, some champs simply win trades outright or out sustain your harass. Kennen for example has NO mana, unless you're playing as a different manaless AP, Kat, Vlad, or Morde for example, you're going to run OOm. You run OOm you've now just lost any ability to trade with your enemy. 4. If you're complaining about Garen....I have a feeling you have less than ~300 games played. Or you're just plain bad. Either way: Moon has a very good point.[/quote]

[quote=Babit]Dodge bind gg. Her full combo post 6 is pretty much an instakill though.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]I just play [[kennen]] and abuse my high base AD and 575 range using creeps to block her Q.[/quote]

[quote=Pølsemanden]Morgana is sooo boooring, and sooooo easy to play... Really.. Roll your head across the keyboard, make su reto hit "d->r->1" and u just won a teamfight.. Pre-teamfights u get half the creeps by pressing one button, u're allowed to start with a doran's ring due to sustain from passive. So FUCKING EASY AND BORING![/quote]