Doran's shield on some AP carries?

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK][quote=Trojan995] I would say, for the most part, Doran's isn't a #1 pick for AP carries in lane. Here's why: - AP carries usually face off against AP carries in lane, so the armor is only blocking minion hits. - You'll get more regen/sustain out of boots/3 health potions. Now doran's does have its advantages over boots/3, such as health and health regen that doesnt run out (like potions do), but I think the armor is minimally good, the health regen is quite good, and the health is replaceable (if you're only going for health, get [[doran's ring]].) So, when I think about it, it actually seems like a decent choice because it kind of gives the best of both worlds in defense (health from [[doran's ring]], sustain from [[boots of speed]]/3 [[health potion]]s). [/quote] motherfucker you beat me to the armor thing that's what I was telling lugi yesterday, before he made this thread 1/3 of the stats from it are useless, yes he has his E but more mana regen just lets you harass that much more, and the AP for extra damage. basically, think about it like this. both give you 100 HP. armor is, basically, useless on mid AP carries. SO, for the same amount of gold, would you rather have 15 AP and more mana regen for more harass and damage from that harass (keep in mind, 15 extra AP in damage is a LOT early game when HP pools are so low), or some extra HP regen? more often than not, the AP and mana regen.[/quote]

[quote=Trojan995][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] motherfucker you beat me to the armor thing that's what I was telling lugi yesterday, before he made this thread 1/3 of the stats from it are useless, yes he has his E but more mana regen just lets you harass that much more, and the AP for extra damage. basically, think about it like this. both give you 100 HP. armor is, basically, useless on mid AP carries. SO, for the same amount of gold, would you rather have 15 AP and more mana regen for more harass and damage from that harass (keep in mind, 15 extra AP in damage is a LOT early game when HP pools are so low), or some extra HP regen? more often than not, the AP and mana regen. [/quote] [[trinity force]] is often bought on champions without AP, and [[lich bane]] is often bought on champions without mana, so the wasted stat isn't necessarily the problem. It will help, though, especially when you get aggressive and draw minion aggro. The point is, [[doran's ring]] gives more offensive power, boots + 3hp gives quick and heavy sustain (if you're low health, a potion will regen it a LOT faster, so you don't have to sit around and wait for wimpy regen from the shield to haul ass. In fact, boots + 3 has offensive potential because it's easier to get in range for harass and you can rush [[sorcerer's shoes]] to do near true damage to the enemy early on. Doran's doesn't have any offensive potential, besides the "more defense = more offense opportunities" backwards logic. So, in short: the ring gives more options and flexibility, the boots gives more options and flexibility, but the shield is really only applicable in a few small scenarios. Use it in those scenarios, but nowhere else.[/quote]

[quote=VoiD]boots + 3 pots>Dorans shield for me[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Doran's shield is a amazingly underused item. One of the best Doran's items in terms of raw stats.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]hmm Doran's shield is 120 HP not 100 wRAth[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I was with [[singed]] solo top and i knew that i get [[nocturne]] as enemy. So i started with [[doran's shield]] and buyed a [[cloth armor]] after [[catalyst the protector]]. [[Nocturne]] were completly outlaned and cannot do anything. You could also start with [[cloth armor]] + 5 [[health potion]]s, if you want.[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]oh shit bard, 20 more HP D:[/quote]

[quote=AbbaPanda][quote=JakofAllSpaydes] I've seen so many kennens with dorans shield :/ [/quote] Exactly. ^[/quote]

[quote=deathalo44]Doran shield on Vlad, anyone? Anyway, even AP Carries facing off AP Carries may want a bit of armor. In the case of Brand, Annie etc Combo-ers, its great really early since they'll rely a lot on combos, and thus effectiveness scales down, thus needing to normal attack. In fact, I rarely see any AP Carries NOT autoattacking opponents at level 1-5. Needlessly to say, others have to autoattack you to death >:)[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] oh shit bard, 20 more HP D: [/quote] lol I prefer boots + 3 health pots most of the time anyways[/quote]