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Creator: DuffTime March 6, 2012 10:53am
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He's going to be donated blue buff. As previously mentioned.
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DuffTime wrote:

He's going to be donated blue buff. As previously mentioned.


You can't be "donated" blue buff, you have to go get it.

If you can deny blue buff, you can beat him.

If you can't, he's one of the best characters in the game to give blue buff too, and you will most likely lose the lane, unless you play something like Kennen and CS with shuriken, or you get blue buff as well, and play an equally strong blue buff character such as Ryze or something.
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Well, if you can't outsustain him, you have to burst him down, like earlier mentioned. Then all blue buffs of the world don't help him.

(Again, Shaco jungle means fun)
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*Sigh.

We are expecting him to get the blue buffs that spawn on the side of the map that his team is closest to, and we're not going to be gambling on the fact that our team will be winning hard enough to take those blue buffs from them.

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Well, if you can't outsustain him, you have to burst him down, like earlier mentioned. Then all blue buffs of the world don't help him.

(Again, Shaco jungle means fun)


Actually Urgot with blue has infinite damage and infinite shields. Blue buff always helps him. That's why Genji was able to 1v2 with blue buff on urgot.
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DuffTime wrote:

*Sigh.

We are expecting him to get the blue buffs that spawn on the side of the map that his team is closest to, and we're not going to be gambling on the fact that our team will be winning hard enough to take those blue buffs from them.

I suggested Nunu as a good way to fix exactly that problem. With his built-in smite, move-speed buff, and slow, he can much more safely steal Urgot's blue than pretty much anyone else, without help from your team.

The problem with this is that it mostly depends on Urgot's team being blue, so that you have easy enough access to his blue buff. If you end up on blue team, so that Urgot is on purple, picking Nunu is clearly not going to help you steal or deny his blue.

Is this Urgot player really good at farming under his own tower? If he isn't, AP Sion could be one of your better bets, as long as you can fund his mana costs, for the spam-able shield and great pushing ability. Hide in bushes, turn on massive shield, walk up and stun Urgot, blow shield to destroy entire minion wave, hide in bushes, repeat. Assuming, of course, this wasn't how you already planned to play Sion against Urgot.
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AP Sion won't win vs Urgot, Urgot is a pain in the *** to deal with as Sion anyways, and as a top Sion you won't be getting blue, which AP Sion needs in order to harass.

Also Nunu is not as fast a blue as you think, lul, and even if you steal blue, Nunu still won't do any better vs Urgot.

Although maybe you could pick Heim vs him, Duff?

Have no idea how Heim does vs Urgot, especially with blue, but I imagine taking his turret in exchange for blue isn't going to be something he really -wants- to do.

but then I don't know anything about heim, so take it with a grain of salt.


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^A squishy slow mover like heimerdinger would get beat badly by urgot, as does pretty much every AP caster in the game.

Other possibilities and reasoning:

Garen: Silence. Huge damage to someone who isn't going to counter you with armor runes.

Fizz: Playful/Trickster to dodge the gas bomb every time

Sivir: Spell Shield. (need good reflexes and special set up bot so you don't get two ad carries)
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CLEARLY your best option vs the blue buff Urgot is AP YI !!! CLEARLY !!!
I must be correct as I have used the word clearly in all caps multiple times.

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